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Speculation: Does Boston rebuild? Whats Charlie McAvoy worth?

As has been said the Bruins are primed for a retool. On a rebuild you’d be somewhat lucky to get a pasternak or MacAvoy. Tearing a team down completely isn’t some knee jerk reaction you do after one bad year. If they are bad next year then maybe they start by dangling one of the big guns
 
I think most of us Bruins fans expected a retool last year, but then practically everyone overachieved and we made the second round.

The trades they made, Ullmark included, I think were overall pretty solid giving us a few prospects and picks, and with a potential top 5 pick this year and 30 million dollars to spend this offseason, we should be able to find some good pieces to surround our core players and get better.
 
SnuggaRUDE said:
I think they retool by having key players return from injury.
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Exactly. I'm almost certain the direction will not be a "full rebuild". In fact, I would be shocked if they don't aggressively attempt to add this summer. Hopefully select in the top-5 of the draft as well.

If you sell McAvoy, I think you also have to sell Pastrnak. Probably also have to say goodbye to Swayman too (if possible).... because he's going to get absolutely shelled.... even more than he already is.

McAvoy 27. Pastrnak 28. Swayman 26. All recently re-signed and not nearing the end of their contacts.

They were in the thick of it for most of the season before the deadline sell off, despite the injuries to a few key players. Warning signs were there since last year however. I still don't think there's any feeling that it needs to be blown up. Trading McAvoy would be a sign of tearing things down to the bone.
 
Full rebuild? Maybe, see what ownership does. Restructuring/retool very possible, Jets came back in 2011 with terrible prospect pool but not good enough core to be a good team, they never did any full rebuild, never did any scorched earth rebuild like some others have. They kept all their core and drafted & developed well, fast forward till today 1st OA in the NHL. Highest draft pick was 2nd overall (eventually traded Laine for PLD then traded him for a package deal) and that was only bc they won lottery. Jets never signed any FA in July to speed up the process either, sounds like a negative but usually is a positive bc so many GM’s make bad decisions in July. Boston can speed up any retool with wise FA signings in July.

Mark S 7th OA
KFC 17th OA
Ehlers 9th OA
Josh M 13th OA
Helle 130th OA
Trouba 9th OA
Etc
Etc
Etc

Teams don’t have to do full rebuild it’s a choice, they can restructure/retool just takes longer typically and you have to draft & develop well.
 
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BadBruins said:
They were in the thick of it for most of the season before the deadline sell off, despite the injuries to a few key players. Warning signs were there since last year however. I still don't think there's any feeling that it needs to be blown up. Trading McAvoy would be a sign of tearing things down to the bone.
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A lot of that "in the thick of it" was illusory. The East has been terrible this season (at least the bottom end) and the Bruins were posting a dreadful GF/GA differential pretty much from the start. They were outperforming Pythag for a long time, but that didn't/shouldn't have indicated they didn't suck.

Next season can certainly be a new animal, but I'm not high on the chances McAvoy and Lindholm won't miss time again.
 
The don godfather said:
Foundation is there and now they adding solid prospects and picks with lots of cap space. Excellent retool going on.
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What potentially impactful prospects do they have? I mean not just NHL ready ones, but who can help the team with making the playoffs? Because there is no point in retooling if you aren't gonna play for playoffs.

I personally don't see any such prospects in their system and in the draft. Even if we take Misa, I doubt he'll have big impact in the next 2 seasons.
 
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nbwingsfan said:
Vasilevski has had a bad season before

Price has had a bad season before

Quick has had a bad season before

Saros has had a bad season before

What makes you think Swayman won’t rebound after a bad season?
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He didn't just have a bad season, he has been one sweet pain in the ass, and had as much to do with this shit show this season as anyone. They should be looking to move him now! I don't care if he goes out and wins a Vezina,
 
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nbwingsfan said:
What assets will become available that are anywhere close to a guy who can score 100pts playing with no help?
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None. However, if the plan is to rebuild a new core then the picks/prospects acquired from a Pasta trade will help getting those young core guys. A rebuild of a new young core is often a 5-7 year project. Pasta is great right now. How great will he be when the new young core is established?
If the plan is to retool, then keep Pasta and hope the GM makes the smart moves to do that.
 
3 more years at 9.5 for a top 10 or 15 D

I said this about Quinn Hughes who is better.

We are looking at multiple 1sts and a high end young player back for him


McAvoys do not grow on trees.
 
They are rebuilding. But they won't trade their remaining top players.

They'd be bonkers to do a scorched earth rebuild. If they trade Pasta, McAvoy, or Swayman then they'll just be killing the rebuild by adding too many holes that they'll need to fill. Rebuilding teams are allowed to have a star player on the roster.

A re-tool on the fly means adding a bit of a youth movement or trading away a pending UFA but still trying to win. Like the Avs finding a way to stay competative without Rantanen. What Boston is doing isn't a re-tool, even if they do keep a few players around.

They traded away Frederick, Coyle, Marchand, and Carlo at the deadline. That's a rebuild.
 
Kshahdoo said:
What potentially impactful prospects do they have? I mean not just NHL ready ones, but who can help the team with making the playoffs? Because there is no point in retooling if you aren't gonna play for playoffs.

I personally don't see any such prospects in their system and in the draft. Even if we take Misa, I doubt he'll have big impact in the next 2 seasons.
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Poitras & Minten are two quick ones that come to mind.
 
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banks said:
They are rebuilding. But they won't trade their remaining top players.

They'd be bonkers to do a scorched earth rebuild. If they trade Pasta, McAvoy, or Swayman then they'll just be killing the rebuild by adding too many holes that they'll need to fill. Rebuilding teams are allowed to have a star player on the roster.

A re-tool on the fly means adding a bit of a youth movement or trading away a pending UFA but still trying to win. Like the Avs finding a way to stay competative without Rantanen. What Boston is doing isn't a re-tool, even if they do keep a few players around.

They traded away Frederick, Coyle, Marchand, and Carlo at the deadline. That's a rebuild.
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I think there is a little nuance here. They traded Coyle, but brought back in a younger Mittelstadt to replace him. Frederic was a UFA and they can sign someone else instead that is less redundant. Moving Carlo was a more “rebuild” style move, but Minten should be on the roster next year and the Toronto first could be flipped for more immediate help. Marchand could just come back. I think they intend for it to be closer to a retool than a rebuild, but it could go either way and how the lottery/draft goes will play a factor.
 
Yeah this isn't a team in the need of a rebuild. At least not yet. I think Swayman missing all of training camp kind of set the whole tone of how this season was going to go for them. Also show how important training camp is.

Bruins still have a core that is young enough to build around. Draft savvy, get everyone into camp and on the same page and see how that works for 2025-26. If it's a rinse but repeat season, then maybe start having the more difficult discussions.
 
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