Do you think the Rangers should re-sign Marc Staal long term?
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Obviously it's a huge risk and a lot of people here wouldn't like that trade. But if we put Yak in a position to succeed and he actually becomes the star that his talent suggests he should be the deal would be well worth it. It's also adding one of their top D man prospects like Klefbom or Marincin that are ready to play for us this year.
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If we swing a big deal it's going to be for a center. It's not worth making a hole in our defense to add another wing.
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Raspewtin
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Nasher can play LW on the top line and Marty is 39 years old. That's why. This guy can be our top RW for the next decade.
Raspewtin
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Has everyone forgotten how ineffective Nash was on LW while with the Rangers? Cause he was.
No way I put Nash on LW just to fit Yak. Would rather do that to Zucc.
Really doubt EDM trades him too. His value is at rock bottom.
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A deal for Staal that brings in Yakupov is just a poor move.
Kid is on the better side of bust and still holds the value of a #1 overall and potential superstar, which I'm not sure he hits.
Kid is on the better side of bust and still holds the value of a #1 overall and potential superstar, which I'm not sure he hits.
Staal was huge against Pittsburgh and Philly, and he had a phenomenal regular season. It's very unfortunate that he's being viewed in such a negative light because he had a poor ECF and SCF. He's the perfect player to compliment Boyle as well.
Sadly the Rangers have are in a spot where they're tight on cap space moving forward and he's going to demand a big raise. I think the team is almost forced to sign him because there's simply nobody pushing to take his minutes away. Moore didn't take his game to a new level this year. Skjei is at least a year away, probably more. Allen may not even be ready for 3rd pairing minutes, let alone 2nd pairing minutes. I know the idea of trading Staal for a dynamic forward is pleasant fiction, but the reality is that you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Unless you're getting a legitimate 2nd pairing defender back in the deal, you're going to be hurting on the blue line.
I think the team is looking at another Girardi situation.
Sadly the Rangers have are in a spot where they're tight on cap space moving forward and he's going to demand a big raise. I think the team is almost forced to sign him because there's simply nobody pushing to take his minutes away. Moore didn't take his game to a new level this year. Skjei is at least a year away, probably more. Allen may not even be ready for 3rd pairing minutes, let alone 2nd pairing minutes. I know the idea of trading Staal for a dynamic forward is pleasant fiction, but the reality is that you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Unless you're getting a legitimate 2nd pairing defender back in the deal, you're going to be hurting on the blue line.
I think the team is looking at another Girardi situation.
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Sums it up well. I think Boyle and Staal compliment each other very well, I'm excited for them to get some games under their belts together.
I think it would be a better idea to pay Staal just to run your blue line off the idea that you have a 1A and 1B anchoring your first two pairings.
That way for at least two years (which is the earliest you will see Skeij pushing for big minutes) you have McDonagh-Girardi and Staal-Boyle.
Even after next year if the cap is tight for us I would explore trading Girardi before Staal. IMO DG's value is only going to start trending downward. We would be smart to capitalize on his rather than Marc's.
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Not sure if you're one of the people that would prefer trading him but if you are what type of player would you suggest as a return?
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Would love to trade Girardi but doesn't his contract have a no move clause for the first few years?
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Same as my thoughts as Callahan, I would rather keep him unless it was out of control. $5.25 on a 5 year deal would be a hometown discount I would appreciate.
Hard to say anything beyond that. I would probably opt for letting a market develop and see what was available, both dangling him for a haul or ponying up with him for a player. I think if Staal is traded it's not until next trade deadline at the earliest. A lot can happen from now until then.
I wouldn't say very inconsistent but he had a few spurts lasting a small handful of games last year where he didn't look himself. I think he showed a lot of moments though that he could still be as effective as he once was. Maybe his offensive game wont progress as further as some hoped, but I don't think it regresses either.
Either way, losing him would affect this team in a large way.
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The only thing is Staal said he wants the decision on whether or not the Rangers will re-sign him done by the end of the summer. So I think we will know by then what will happen with him. I would definitely re-sign him if we could get him at $5.25 per. But I have a feeling he wants $6 + especially since a player like Brooks Orpik got a contact with an AAV of $5.5. Which is why I feel like we will have to end up trading him.
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That's just speculation from Brooks. There's nothing there about what Staal's actually looking for.
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He would be fair to ask for $6 given the open market.
To not leave a good situation and fairly be paid? $5.25-$5.75 would be a nice deal.
To not leave a good situation and fairly be paid? $5.25-$5.75 would be a nice deal.
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Why do we have to trade him? Whatever deal he gets doesn't kick in until next year. The cap will rise. We're not trading him because of $500k.
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Oh wow I forgot about that. That definitely makes this situation better. But looked what happened this year to the cap that was supposed to rise a lot more.
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We don't have to trade him, but I wouldn't extend him. Re-signing him leaves us stuck on the same cycle paying more and more to the same guys without ever being able to upgrade.
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Speculation by Brooks, but Staal must have inferred that somehow, the way he wrote it. I would say the same if I were Staal... after seeing Engelland and Orpik sign, I'd wanna make a killing now. I'd demand $6.5. But we'll be waiting till next March, when he WILL either be traded or extend.
