Do You Think The Oilers Have Done Enough To Help McDrai Win The Cup?

[bucks_oil]

In what world is a .908 sv% and 2.61 GAA HOF worthy? Skinner was .906 and 2.45 GAA this past playoffs.

"Near HOF" Letang was 6th on the Pens in ES TOI in the 2009 playoffs. He was a PP specialist at that point. Bouchard is considerably more impactful than Letang was at that age.

Crosby and McDavid are both generational talents that produce regardless, peak Malkin was at that level also, Draisaitl not so much.

Fleury is #2 All-Time in wins for goalies. 9-time All Star, a Vezina, and a three time cup winner. He's going to the hall of fame.

And his performance in that finals, especially the last two games to clinch it, was legendary... I know, because I was at game 7, behind his net when he made that diving chest save with however many seconds left.

Dave... We all know you hate McDavid... you don't need to drag other players through the mud to make your point: you still wish he was a Leaf.

 

[bucks_oil]

So...

Looks like Kane just had knee surgery? Sorry if I'm late to the party and it's covered in this thread, but that was definitely news to me.

The timing of this looks like they are positioning for him to be out until the playoffs. 4-8 week recovery before he can even start training.

That means we likely have about ~$8M in cap space at the deadline, not $3M. Enough for a #4 D and a goalie.

Things could get interesting.

 

[Coffey]

So...

Looks like Kane just had knee surgery? Sorry if I'm late to the party and it's covered in this thread, but that was definitely news to me.

The timing of this looks like they are positioning for him to be out until the playoffs. 4-8 week recovery before he can even start training.

That means we likely have about ~$8M in cap space at the deadline, not $3M. Enough for a #4 D and a goalie.

Things could get interesting.

Time for the GOLDEN OILERS to shine.

 

[TheLegend27]

This is why those two are losers, they never are in a position where they struggle and have to overcome it.

They literally were last place last season after losing to the sharks. Virtually all analysts thought they wouldn’t even make the playoffs before their 16 win streak, never mind making the finals. Is that not adversity enough?. I’d rather put McDrai together and try to salvage a game rather than die on a hill saying “we lost, but atleast they drove their own lines”

 

[daver]

They literally were last place last season after losing to the sharks. Virtually all analysts thought they wouldn’t even make the playoffs before their 16 win streak, never mind making the finals. Is that not adversity enough?. I’d rather put McDrai together and try to salvage a game rather than die on a hill saying “we lost, but atleast they drove their own lines”

This is a reasonable opinion. Perhaps comparisons shouldn't be made to players who were able to successfully drive their own lines with equally inept forwards.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Fleury 2.61 / .908 24GP 10 games below .900, 3 games below .850%
Skinner 2.45/ . 901 23 GP 11 games below .900%, 6 games below .850%

Fleury was statistically better, and had a few less horrible games, but who is to say.

The league average SV% was 8 points higher in 09.

There's no way Stuart Skinner beats that 2009 Red Wings team, that's a better team than the Panthers.

MAF's 2009 stats are skewed more because he had a poor series against Washington and Pittbsurgh caught a lucky break in that Washington's goaltending was almost as bad rendering that factor moot. But he was good in the 3 other playoff rounds and good in the Finals especially with the series on the line he elevated his game.

Crosby was awful in the 2009 Finals. Malkin got them close to the Cup, but MAF took them over the top and won it for them. That's a team effort.

LOL. Washington's goaltending was bad? You're just admitting you didn't watch the series.

Varlamov was bad in game 7 but very good before that. Penguins were out playing WSH but Fleury kept the Capitals in it.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

It's misleading. Skinner was sub .900 in the first 3 games of the series while Bob was oustanding, that put the Oilers in an 0-3 hole. The fact that they climbed out of it and damn near won is commendable, but with a better goalie there's a good chance they're not down 0-3 in the first place.

Saying Stuart Skinner is about as good as MAF is a joke.

Bob's numbers were also skewed because the Oilers ran up the score in a couple of games. When he needed to be, he was money again in game 7.

It's not just stats, it's about goalies who can elevate and take over a game, MAF can do that, that's crucial in securing Cups.

Red Wings are 2009 Cup Champions if they were playing Stuart Skinner, zero doubt in my mind. Crosby wasn't even good in that series, lol, Malkin was not beating the Red Wings himself.



Crosby shat the bed for the entire 2009 Cup Final. McDavid is the main reason the Oilers came back and almost pulled off a miracle comeback and won the Conn Smythe trophy as a result.

So running up the score can skew numbers? Hmmm I'll have to keep that in mind for #97.