Do you think Ovechkin's legacy will improve over time?

[wetcoast]

Hi, are you aware what "paraphrased" means?

"express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity."

I know exactly what it means the problem here is that you don't understand the problem with altering someone's quote in any freaking way.

But keep doubling down on a really telling sign of bad faith here.

Also not being a top 100 player in the NHL at age 39 isn't actually saying that he sucks that's not paraphrasing so it's obvious that you need to figure out what that actually means.

Here is a definition and nowhere does paraphrasing say inject your own opinion to say something completely different.

express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I know exactly what it means the problem here is that you don't understand the problem with altering someone's quote in any freaking way.

But keep doubling down on a really telling sign of bad faith here.

Also not being a top 100 player in the NHL at age 39 isn't actually saying that he sucks that's not paraphrasing so it's obvious that you need to figure out what that actually means.

Here is a definition and nowhere does paraphrasing say inject your own opinion to say something completely different.

You're getting worked up when it's plain as day that I wasn't expressing those to be your words.

 

[Hanji]

I guess you didn't watch last season and sure he is off to a good start but my bet is that by the time that goal is scored no he wouldn't be a top 100 player for any all in redraft.

Ask yourself this, was Ovi based on last season a top 100 player going into this season?

Moving goalposts. You initially said this:

"if you had an in season draft throw everyone in the pool redraft all 32 teams for just the rest of the year would Ovi be picked in the top 100 for the rest of the year?"

Ovechkin is currently, without question, a top 100 NHLer.

Your entire argument is predicated on 1 sub-par year. That it. He was 5th in goals in the 2 seasons leading up to last year, and he's back on track now. This is not only evident in stats, but in how engaged he is on the ice. He looks nothing like last year.
Let's hope his leg injury isn't too bad.


BTW, aren't you the poster who called him 'cooked' ad nauseam in the Ovechkin milestone thread? How's that turning out for you?

 

[wetcoast]

Moving goalposts. You initially said this:

"if you had an in season draft throw everyone in the pool redraft all 32 teams for just the rest of the year would Ovi be picked in the top 100 for the rest of the year?"

Ovechkin is currently, without question, a top 100 NHLer.

Your entire argument is predicated on 1 sub-par year. That it. He was 5th in goals in the 2 seasons leading up to last year, and he's back on track now. This is not only evident in stats, but in how engaged he is on the ice. He looks nothing like last year.
Let's hope his leg injury isn't too bad.


BTW, aren't you the poster who called him 'cooked' ad nauseam in the Ovechkin milestone thread? How's that turning out for you?

Sure let's all pretend that last years playoffs didn't happen or the last couple of seasons, sure he has been better this year and it's against the trend but just like his alst hot start was against the trend and some, perhaps yourself, all were claiming Hart trophy ect then he regressed to the norm.

Of course the leg injury will now be the excuse and people will overlook the small sample PDO of 110.5 as we have seen this movie before.

Also nobody was seriously taking him as a top 100 player in an all in redraft for one season only contracts not included, just do the exercice from each team.

But of course a small group will look at points and nothing else I guess but he was tied for 72nd in points last season maybe they aren't 30ish Dmen and goalies one would take over him....I think not.

 

[Hanji]

Sure let's all pretend that last years playoffs didn't happen or the last couple of seasons, sure he has been better this year and it's against the trend but just like his alst hot start was against the trend and some, perhaps yourself, all were claiming Hart trophy ect then he regressed to the norm.

Of course the leg injury will now be the excuse and people will overlook the small sample PDO of 110.5 as we have seen this movie before.

Also nobody was seriously taking him as a top 100 player in an all in redraft for one season only contracts not included, just do the exercice from each team.

But of course a small group will look at points and nothing else I guess but he was tied for 72nd in points last season maybe they aren't 30ish Dmen and goalies one would take over him....I think not.

Last year.. last year.. last year..

Stop proving my point. All you have is 1 outlier season. That's it. You're argument falls apart when we analyze the totality of Ovechkin's play the past few seasons.



And small group? Go make a poll. See if majority of people consider him a current top 100 player. I mean you specifically said he wouldn't be taken in the top100 in a in-season redraft for the end of the year.
Seriously, do it. Go prove your point.

 

[wetcoast]

Last year.. last year.. last year..

Stop proving my point. All you have is 1 outlier season. That's it. You're argument falls apart when we analyze the totality of Ovechkin's play the past few seasons.

The 2 outliers have been the start to this season and the start of the 20-21 season outside of around 60 games he has been aging pretty much since the 19-20 season as an overall player.

sure the goals still come as do the points in a lesser degree but that's more about premium usage and a late career "defensive awareness" that makes him a higher option in ENG situations than earlier in his career go figure.

And small group? Go make a poll. See if majority of people consider him a current top 100 player. I mean you specifically said he wouldn't be taken in the top100 in a in-season redraft for the end of the year.
Seriously, do it. Go prove your point.

It's kind of too late to make a poll going into this season and one at this point would be fantasy based by points and the small sample size of this season with that 110.5 PDO and if I do the poll I can already slot in the usual fanboi spots voting yes without reading the question.