Drumman44
Kyle Beach Deserved Better
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It’s 100% up to the Saulk tribe imo. We non native folks should look to them for direction
I kinda disagree on it being 100% because it is a depiction of a Native American with a headdress in general, not necessarily just the Sauk.It’s 100% up to the Saulk tribe imo. We non native folks should look to them for direction
They’re not bringing the Redskins name back to Washington, I think they’re gonna move off the name commanders, correct?I don't think they will change it. I think and also hope the ship has sailed on this discussion.
And look at the Redskins, with the new ownership there seems to be some momentum building towards bringing the Redskins name back - which probably is offensive, unlike Blackhawks.
I also doubt it, but the new owners keep using it. Whatever their reasons are for it.They’re not bringing the Redskins name back to Washington, I think they’re gonna move off the name commanders, correct?
Great points. I don’t think anyone here sees a name change as likely.As long as the Blackhawks are winning and drumming up fan interest and money then the name is safe. That's the reason The Redskins lost their name; their owner ran the team into the ground; fans stop attending games and the franchise wasn't making the same capital like they did in their glory years. That's when they finally caved because the team wasn't making money like before.
Since Bedard got drafted ticket sales have drastically increased and if he lives up to the hype it will only increase revenue. At that point the name and logo will be to profitable to tamper with despite outside pressure.
What could you see happening to make it a conversation again? Seems like the chiefs and Braves have also kinda dodged the bullet
I am not a kraken fan. I like Beniers because he played at Michigan in college. I can’t name 5 kraken players come to think of it.Hey take your busybody attitude and go pound sand. I heard mythical sea creatures are upset with your use of Kraken - when are going to change your team name to something less offensive?
The name is safe...its the logo that's endangered. If the symbol is dropped the franchise can keep the name and replace it with an actual hawk or a helicopter. But the chief's head is part of the team's history, since it's inception. That is what the haters are after.Great points. I don’t think anyone here sees a name change as likely.
But the indian head logo on the front of the jersey; that’s another story. What are your thoughts on that?
Bedard is an interesting cog in all this.
"probably"??I don't think they will change it. I think and also hope the ship has sailed on this discussion.
And look at the Redskins, with the new ownership there seems to be some momentum building towards bringing the Redskins name back - which probably is offensive, unlike Blackhawks.
I am not a kraken fan. I like Beniers because he played at Michigan in college. I can’t name 5 kraken players come to think of it.
Also really like Caufield. I like all guys out of the big 10.
For the record I’m adamantly against the Blackhawks changing the logo or name.
Thanks for playing though.
For me it’s all or nothing. At age 40 that logo is all I know. If they change the logo, they should change the name too. Though there’s no easy answer here. I think if I was Wirtz, I would absolutely force them to make me sell the team first. If I had to change it I would go to hawks and I don’t even know. If they change it just sell the teamThe name won't change at the bare minimum. The Blackhawks have more leeway due to honoring/taking after a specific person versus a group which is what happened to the Redskins/Indians while the logo is definitely far more inoffensive. As long as the local native tribes are fine with it without any outside influence dictating to them saying that's their feeling (swaying either way) I think it's cool to keep it.
Plenty of Native Americans do not like that it is used, however, all Native communities are not unified in this opinion. They most likely never will be, due to the vast variety of tribes.The Logo does not demean Native Americans. My wife is a Native American, it doesn't bother her, or my in-laws. Only people it seems to bother don't have a dog in the fight. Go find something important to worry about.
Not a great comparison seeing as Japan has never committed genocide against ItaliansI always get a chuckled when I hear the argument that "white people are making money off of Native imagery.
Do they realize that the Japanese have made billions (probably trillions) off the imagery of 2 Italian plumbers?
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This has been going on for the last half century.
More power to Miyamoto and his team.
This is the best take I’ve seen on it yet.The name is safe...its the logo that's endangered. If the symbol is dropped the franchise can keep the name and replace it with an actual hawk or a helicopter. But the chief's head is part of the team's history, since it's inception. That is what the haters are after.
Like I wrote if the team continues to make money then the logo isn't going anywhere. That's all the NHL, sponsors, and owners care about. If the middle pulled support from the team, like they did to Snyder, to force a change, Blackhawks would come out in droves to protest. If they are bad with no hope of improvement fan apathy will help force a change because no one will bother to fight back.
I hope they bring back Washington Football Team unironically.Redskins name is literally a derogatory word for Native Americans, its not coming back.