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Menzinger said:
The Leafs have just 2 losses during regulation in their past 14 games. But you wouldn't guess it reading through this.
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They have lost 5 in a row. A loss is a loss is a loss. Just because the NHL decided to award something to the loser doesn’t make it any better.
Overtime losses will not cut it in the playoffs
 
I like a few of the players some are horrible but the real issue comes down to management. Our GM is floundering around big time. We have a coach with very little NHL experience and makes some very questionable decisions and if they lose in the first round again and Shanny let’s Dubas and Keefe keep their jobs then he is a problem going forward
 
I stopped liking most of the players around the time when Pat Quinn left, although there were a couple years when Orr and McLaren were both playing they were watchable.
 
Leaftors said:
If this team can get average goaltending, it’ll win a cup
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Not a chance.
We need players that have the courage to do whatever it takes to win, we don’t have those types of players.
You’re not going to win cups with Marner, Reilly, and Nylander, you will make the playoffs every year, but that’s about it.
 
Nope no killer instinct, no grit, no toughness, no goaltending, no power play, no power play coach.
It this point it will be another first round exit.
 
The minute Hyman got his knee taken out and the team did NOTHING... at that moment i said f*** this team. Absolute joke. Still bleed blue and white but it’s really hard to give a flying f***
 
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shaner89 said:
The minute Hyman got his knee taken out and the team did NOTHING... at that moment i said f*** this team. Absolute joke. Still bleed blue and white but it’s really hard to give a flying f***
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Dude, everytime this team sneezes you say "f*** this team".
 
shaner89 said:
The minute Hyman got his knee taken out and the team did NOTHING... at that moment i said f*** this team. Absolute joke. Still bleed blue and white but it’s really hard to give a flying f***
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There is a bigger % of the fan population that would stick up for Hyman than the % of players on his team... that is a sad commentary on the gutless floaters on this team. So what someone punches you in the face, it's not as bad as most people think.
 
The most wildly inconsistent team of the top ten teams in the league by far . Every 5-10 games or so of playing pretty good , we then follow it up with 5-10 games of erratic poor play in some form or another . It seems that when our elite players score more than not , it camouflages our weaknesses , when that scoring dries up , our warts show . this is obviously not a strong way to win playoff rounds and certainly the cup
 
Racer88 said:
They have lost 5 in a row. A loss is a loss is a loss. Just because the NHL decided to award something to the loser doesn’t make it any better.
Overtime losses will not cut it in the playoffs
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The NHL has always maintained that a tie at the end of regulation was a point in the standings.

You real issue is with the points awarded after (OT/SO wins)
 
Racer88 said:
I like a few of the players some are horrible but the real issue comes down to management. Our GM is floundering around big time. We have a coach with very little NHL experience and makes some very questionable decisions and if they lose in the first round again and Shanny let’s Dubas and Keefe keep their jobs then he is a problem going forward
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Ya, because all the experience Babcock, Lou, Burke, Nonis, Maurice, Carlyle, etc. etc. had did this team swell.

Inexperience /= incompetence.

I dont think Keefe is the issue, although he needs to learn how to make adjustments sooner, and I certainly do not think Dubas is the issue.
 
Wish the Leafs could Will To Win their goalies to SV %’s above .900.

*Big Sieve Dave lets in an unscreened wrister from thirty feet out*

“Leafs won’t win anything with Nylander, Rielly, or Marner! Fire Dubas and Keefe!”

Like clockwork.
 
Racer88 said:
I like a few of the players some are horrible but the real issue comes down to management. Our GM is floundering around big time. We have a coach with very little NHL experience and makes some very questionable decisions and if they lose in the first round again and Shanny let’s Dubas and Keefe keep their jobs then he is a problem going forward
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I can be a Dubas skeptic as much as anyone but I think his moves over the past year have been fairly well thought out to address some of the maturity issues with the core and for long stretches resulted in a juggernaut team. His deadline deals were meticulous in filling in the last roster holes, put a little more at each position, got a goalie for insurance, etc.

My only concern big picture is his original sin of overpaying for talent has been locked in by the flat cap which has capped the ability of the Leafs to make substantive upgrades. The backfill pieces have been good for stretches but there’s clearly a qualitative difference in what a league minimum guy like Thornton at 41 can do and what a prime aged TJ Brodie can help you build.

That said, the recent struggles feels like Dubas has sunk a lot of assets and players into changing the character of the core group but a lot of the bad habits seem to be baked in at this point.
 
Leaftors said:
We've addressed what was missing last year.
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I don't believe we have. We were never missing a 41 year old who puts you shorthanded when he's on the ice. I think Kyle is so wide of the mark with his roster construction. However, that is only my opinion.
 
the only real problems on this team is the coach forcing simmonds and thornoton on the ice every night.
lets face it these 2 guys drag down the whole team. they drag the second PP/sometimes first PP down, they provide no offense or defense. when your being outplayed by engvall every night thats a probem.
Sure they were feel good stories at the start of the year but its clear that they are no longer nhl calbur players. I dont want to hear the "they will help during the playoffs" argument ...
 
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