Do you guys think the NHL will get the same TV money like the NFL?

[dr robbie]

NHL is far more likely to get passed by pickleball than it is to catch up with the NFL.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Hell no

 

[3074326]

Only way the NHL catches the NFL is if the NFL fails somehow.

The Super Bowl had 113 million viewers. Sunday Night Football averaged almost 20 million viewers, Monday Night Football almost 12 million.

The NHL had 1.6 million viewers for game 1 of the SCF. Negotiating power isn't even remotely the same.

It's like... a highlight of my day to meet and talk NHL with a fellow fan. Everyone I meet and know loves the NFL.

 

[JPeeper]

Opening week the NFL averaged over 21+ million viewers per game.

The NHL averages around 550k per game (depending on the team). There are other factors such as more games played in the NHL, etc. but it's not even close.

 

[ItWasJustified]

What's funny? From a viewship perspective, the poster is absolulely right.

If by viewship perspective you are referring to as a viewer being bored out of your mind and bombarded with ads, I guess it's the best sport to watch if you hate watching real sports.

 

[crowi]

They need to convince a star player to start dating Justin Bieber, get that casual fan base going.

Isn't Matthews already dating him?

 

[archangel2]

NHL will NEVER get a TV contract on the level of NBA, NFL or MLB

 

[DueDiligence]

N

Bettman was hired to get the NHL a lucrative US TV deal.

Do you guys think the NHL will ever get NFL-like TV deal?

What are the pros and cons from this perspective?

Not in a million years. No other sport gets NFL money.

 

[End on a Hinote]

Bettman was hired to get the NHL a lucrative US TV deal.

Do you guys think the NHL will ever get NFL-like TV deal?

To quote the great Rosa Parks, "No.".

 

[joelef]

Bettman was hired to get the NHL a lucrative US TV deal.

Do you guys think the NHL will ever get NFL-like TV deal?

What are the pros and cons from this perspective?

A wnba game beat out an nhl playoff game and Caitlyn Clark is more popular then any of your big stars. They can’t even beat out the wnba but think that they can get nfl money? Can I get that of those drugs.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

If you add up the ratings of every NHL game in a season put together, would it equal the Super Bowl?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Never in a million years. I don't understand why people can't just enjoy hockey. There are more than enough teams and they make good revenue. Players make good money. They will always come and go.

Young kids in the states (and even in Canada now) are all into hip hop culture and NBA. NFL too.

 

[the valiant effort]

In a few years NBA bench players will be getting “that NHL salary cap” money in AAV

 

[stymie]

Maybe.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Bettman was hired to get the NHL a lucrative US TV deal.

Do you guys think the NHL will ever get NFL-like TV deal?

What are the pros and cons from this perspective?

Lol absolutely not, at best they could maybe get somewhere sort of close to the NBA, sort of. They're barely pulling ahead of the MLB on average viewership during the season. When it comes to playoffs viewership, the NHL is last among the big 4 leagues.

This is where that show on Amazon could have made the NHL more compelling instead of a boring, definitely not full access, sort of PR stunt type of show for some players while throwing in one actual in depth story about an injured Captain.

To think the NHL is going to jump the NBA in TV ratings to the NFL is quite simply comical in its absurdity.

Here's the average viewership per league and the NHL is basically battling it out for 3rd with the MLB and for the World Series vs the Stanley Cup Finals, the NHL gets destroyed by the MLB.

The NHL had a massive boost in ratings this year in the Finals mostly because of better US coverage with ESPN, ESPN2, and ABC again, but that hype is also entirely misleading. The reason it's hailed as such is because of how piss poor the Finals was in 2023, to put it into perspective, total viewership for the Bolts vs Avs series was 27.61m, Panthers vs VGK was 13.169m and the Panthers vs Oilers jumped up just a little over the 2022 Finals at 29.159m.

Why? - The Panthers vs VGK series was on TNT/TBS. The 2022 & 2024 Finals series was on ESPN+/ABC, you can see how massive of a dip it is when you don't get the right TV rights.

There's not enough consistency, but it also shows the better the coverage in the US, the bigger the numbers are. This is where Bettman has failed severely. The NHL's issues with ESPN and vice versa was not great for the NHL, ESPN wasn't affected much by it at all.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

No. There are way too much actual sport in hockey. TV companies can't show ads every second minute during a NHL broadcast.

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Lmao.

Outside of the interactive CGI ads they show on TV for the boards, ice, and behind the net, helmet ads on jerseys and helmets, oh and literally TV Timeouts - which absolutely ruin momentum. It's one of the most amateurish things the NHL does in comparison to the NBA, NFL, and MLB.

 

[Strangle]

I think the reason for the changes to sport betting and all of the ads reminds me of exactly why the NFL gets such viewing numbers.

If you think the NBA and the NFL are popular because of the sport, I guess that’s partly true. But they are as popular as they are due to sports betting.

So with the NHL now, I think betting will increase their TV numbers substantially

 

[John Mandalorian]

Not NFL like but a more realistic goal is to not be as reliant on gate revenue. The more successful leagues have a larger percentage of revenue from tv contracts.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Here's the average viewership per league and the NHL is basically battling it out for 3rd with the MLB and for the World Series vs the Stanley Cup Finals, the NHL gets destroyed by the MLB.

It’s not average viewership per league, it’s US viewership only it says.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Outside of the interactive CGI ads they show on TV for the boards, ice, and behind the net, helmet ads on jerseys and helmets, oh and literally TV Timeouts - which absolutely ruin momentum. It's one of the most amateurish things the NHL does in comparison to the NBA, NFL, and MLB.

The entire sport of handegg is a tv timeout.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It’s not average viewership per league, it’s US viewership only it says.

Canadian viewer ship isn't the issue.

 

[joelef]

I think the reason for the changes to sport betting and all of the ads reminds me of exactly why the NFL gets such viewing numbers.

If you think the NBA and the NFL are popular because of the sport, I guess that’s partly true. But they are as popular as they are due to sports betting.

So with the NHL now, I think betting will increase their TV numbers substantially

The nhl not popular because they don’t market there stars and the whole sport has a Jihad against self promotion

 

[zizbuka]

I think the reason for the changes to sport betting and all of the ads reminds me of exactly why the NFL gets such viewing numbers.

If you think the NBA and the NFL are popular because of the sport, I guess that’s partly true. But they are as popular as they are due to sports betting.

So with the NHL now, I think betting will increase their TV numbers substantially

Don't undervalue fantasy leagues. Draft day for fantasy leagues is probably bigger than any NHL game.

Look at the schedule; No games Sunday, 1 game Monday. Why do you think that is?

 

[StreetHawk]

I think the reason for the changes to sport betting and all of the ads reminds me of exactly why the NFL gets such viewing numbers.

If you think the NBA and the NFL are popular because of the sport, I guess that’s partly true. But they are as popular as they are due to sports betting.

So with the NHL now, I think betting will increase their TV numbers substantially

You have so many more betting options with the nfl with prop bets than the nhl. Plus, nhl really needs to be more transparent with injuries to increase betting revenue. Nfl lists who practices and whether they are full or partial participants. Plus they list the body part that is ailing the player. Bettor can decide whether that info impacts a prop bet.

 

[BB79]

Who cares. I don't get the whole "GrOw ThE gAmE" crowd. It only benefits the owners and players in the form of more money, and worse yet more unnecessary expansion which further dilutes the schedule. As a fan it doesn't matter a lick. Personally I would rather it stay a niche sport