WJC: Disappointing showings so far

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You can't base future success off the WJC.

There were people that watched Pettersson's WJC performance and wrote him off despite his domination of the SHL. Lunacy.
I understand it's not the be all and all but I don't think conversely a good performance at the WJC should be entirely discredited, nor should a bad one. I don't think it definitively says whether a player will be good or bad. The Pettersson example is a good one but I think Gibson is a good example to the converse. It wasn't that long ago that Gibson had a rough first playoff appearance and people immediately wrote him off. People actually with no irony or joke said that he would plateau as an average starter in the NHL. And I'd point to his junior career and WJC dominance and people told me it didn't matter. Well here we are now and Gibson has cemented himself as one of the elite goaltenders in the league and his lights out performance at the WJC mirrors the quality of play he puts out now.

I don't disagree with anyone who says it's not a definitive stamp on what kind of career a player will have. For example just today someone said that Evan Bouchard will cap out as a bottom pairing defenseman in the NHL. And that may well be true but it's too early to say that. However his run of spotty defense certainly indicates that he's got some work to do. The WJC may not be outcome determinative but it's certainly not a useless window either. I may have been hard on Owen Tippett through the group stage but I certainly don't think that means he's a bust, just that he needs to work on being aware of when a pass is coming and getting his stick on a one time shot properly. Since his tendency seems to go for the one timer. Or he could try something different and settle the puck first and try to take a better shot or look for another pass. Certainly what's been happening in these games of getting fed with passes along the left wing and misfiring over and over again cannot be something he leaves unammended.
 
Canada is also a big disappointment for me to be honest.

Little talent and they don’t work hard like they used to. Instead they just dive and flops all over the ice. It used to be special to watch Canada in the WJC, those first 10 minutes. Recon the millennium generation is taking over, not made of the same stuff.

It’s just my opinion, but who on earth would like set the clock to watch this version of Canada play in the middle of the night to see that?

Little talent on team Canada? They may not have a gamebreaker this year but they've got the best forward group in the tournament.

How they've performed is an entirely different story. They've been awful.
 
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Eeli Tolvanen has had a rough go this year in total. considering he was supposed to be a difference maker for the Preds and didn't even crack the roster now he a'int going great this tourney either
 
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Yeah, I meant more from an entertaining POV. Canada can always win it. Three wins in a row is all it takes, nobody really has their depth.
I agree but sometimes it takes a little longer for teenagers to gel....it might even be an advantage to play an extra game...that is if they win that extra game...
 
Among Ranger prospects, K'Andre Miller.

I didn't like the pick when we selected him. I thought he had regressed last season.

His stats this season are great, and some who have watched seem to think he's been doing well for Wisconsin. I hadn't seen him play this season prior to the WJC's, so I was relying on what I had read about his play this season, but he doesn't look much better than what I had seen last season. Relying on WJC isn't always the best way to gauge the development of prospects, so I'm accounting for that.
 
This tournament is very rarely indicative of future success...

I mean, in a tournament where Cody Hodgson and Jordan Schroeder look like future superstars, and Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser look meh, it's really hard to take it that seriously.
Did you see him last year?
 
Yes. In a tournament he was supposed to dominate, he looked 'meh' by his standards, which is well above average by everyone else's...

People were still writing him off.
You're taking the extreme minority judgment and calling it the consensus view after the tournament. Most people thought he was spectacular.
 
You're taking the extreme minority judgment and calling it the consensus view after the tournament. Most people thought he was spectacular.

No. That's just not true, actually. I remember well. He had one very nice goal and other than that, he got a lot of criticism for not being as good as he can be.
 
What kind of help does he need? He’s the number one scoring centre in the ushl, he should be driving his own line, not needing extra help. He’s been maybe our 6th best forward so far. Roman, Hrehorcak, Liska, Ruzicka, and Ruzicka have all been better than him imo
Ruzicka plays soft as baby poop not the drive i would like to see Liska and Roman been ok . Reality is they are over matched most of the time and its an up hill battle . The mental part of drive no matter what is a good lesson they are learning .
 
Among Ranger prospects, K'Andre Miller.

I didn't like the pick when we selected him. I thought he had regressed last season.

His stats this season are great, and some who have watched seem to think he's been doing well for Wisconsin. I hadn't seen him play this season prior to the WJC's, so I was relying on what I had read about his play this season, but he doesn't look much better than what I had seen last season. Relying on WJC isn't always the best way to gauge the development of prospects, so I'm accounting for that.
Yea we know, you've made it VERY clear in every thread you dislike him. Your opinion on him is pretty pointless at this point.
 
Jack Hughes.

Honest answer. This mysterious injury is killing us. Prevents the kid of playing on the big stage.
 
Easily Bouchard for me. In general sloppy and poor decisions with the puck, not moving well. Not looking good for a kid drafted as high as he was. Also showing poor attitude with the ugly dives. Maybe it’s just me, but why not work harder instead of acting like a clown like that?

Everything you just said is the same thing that was said before he was drafted. You forgot to add lazy bc that was said a lot before the draft as well.
 
Jokiharju has been a disappointment.

So has Noah Dobson.

Noah Dobson has been quiet but I wouldn't say a disappointment for me. Just haven't seen many of the offensive plays that I started expecting from him.
 
I wouldn't say rarely, but wjc is not the best indicator of potential output of a prospect. We've seen great players at the wjc go on to do great things, we've also seen players at the wjc who did poorly at the wjc go on to also do great things.

goes the other way too. We've seen great players at the wjc go on to do jack **** at the NHL level, many times.

Jack is right....Jack Campbell! Lol.
 
Denisenko - Kravtsov - Kostin line for Russia. I thought they would be dominant, but they aren't. They aren't bad, of course, but they must play better.
 
Ruzicka plays soft as baby poop not the drive i would like to see Liska and Roman been ok . Reality is they are over matched most of the time and its an up hill battle . The mental part of drive no matter what is a good lesson they are learning .
Yes Ruzicka does play soft but he has contributed more this tournament than Pospisil. Pospisil seems to focused on landing the next big hit or getting into a scuffle. Doesn’t matter what they learn, if they lose its over. Look at 2015 team, all that matters is winning and producing in the here and now. Pospisil simply hasn’t matched up the way I thought he would against other nations best players. Liska just okay? He’s been arguably our best player outside of Fehervary!
 
Easily Bouchard for me. In general sloppy and poor decisions with the puck, not moving well. Not looking good for a kid drafted as high as he was. Also showing poor attitude with the ugly dives. Maybe it’s just me, but why not work harder instead of acting like a clown like that?
You thinking of Comtois? Cause you lost me at the ugly dives part.
 
Eeli Tolvanen has had a rough go this year in total. considering he was supposed to be a difference maker for the Preds and didn't even crack the roster now he a'int going great this tourney either

I dont think he'll ever be an important player at the NHL level, if even a regular.
 
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