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And Green prevents that how?All that matters is that we have a good defense 3-5 years from now.
Before you answer, we’re 3-2-1 since his injury.
And Green prevents that how?All that matters is that we have a good defense 3-5 years from now.
The only reason to hope for E retiring is to help the tank. He's been one of our best d-men this year and his contract ends in a couple years. I'd be more worried about Dekeyser's contract and whatever offer Holland makes to Green.If big E retires are we on the hook for any money?
Just thinking if he retires and Kronwall goes on ltir retired that frees up roughly 9 million dollars, maybe we get lucky and get dahlin and could have the cap space to make a play for Tavares.The only reason to hope for E retiring is to help the tank. He's been one of our best d-men this year and his contract ends in a couple years. I'd be more worried about Dekeyser's contract and whatever offer Holland makes to Green.
And Green prevents that how?
Before you answer, we’re 3-2-1 since his injury.
And Green prevents that how?
Before you answer, we’re 3-2-1 since his injury.
No, we need top picks and Green helps us lose.all the more reason for letting Green walk.
No, we need top picks and Green helps us lose.
I don't get your response.
1. Who said anything about Karlsson?
2. We tried flipping Green this season, but you don't think we would next season? Uhh... hello?
1. You can trade people with term on their contract. Happens all the time. We just did it with Tatar.Green was an upcoming UFA at this trade deadline, next year he will have term on his contract. Uhh... does this make sense??
How? The Wings are doing a perfect job. Everything you said is exactly what we want. Stay competitive in games and finish "near the bottom of the barrel"As of today, Detroit has 8 more wins than Arizona. EIGHT. And for comparison, the Wings have 17 fewer wins than Tampa Bay. So for call their obsession with avoiding the bottom of the barrel, they're still pretty low in the barrel.
If this "winning culture" is supposed to actually help them win games, instead of blowing it up to reboot the whole thing, it's not exactly doing a great job.
Ya you can trade people with term, but the wings generally don't and you know that. We traded Tatar to open up a spot for Ras and Svech.1. You can trade people with term on their contract. Happens all the time. We just did it with Tatar.
2. You can sign people for 1 year contracts. Again, happens all the time. I'd hope Mike Green, a 32 year old with his best years definitely behind him, won't get anything more than 2 years.
all the more reason for letting Green walk.
I'm saying that Detroit, barring a freak lottery win, will continue to stay in the 15-25 range year after year, and never get any elite players to build a real contender.How? The Wings are doing a perfect job. Everything you said is exactly what we want. Stay competitive in games and finish "near the bottom of the barrel"
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The Redwings have stayed competitive in the playoff race all year long and have stayed competitive in games. Arizona has not. What are you talking about?
Ideally I would like to re-sign him on a short term contract without a NTC... or a flexible NTC where KH get's more control. Like can't trade him to a bottom 5 team in the NHL prior to deadline or something.
I doubt Ericsson would "officially" retire. If he's ready to hang them up before his deal is up, they can probably just LTIRetire him and he still gets to collect the remaining salary on his deal.
I'm speculating from an A+B = C equation here...
A. Ericsson allegedly has some un-repairable hip issue
B. Being allergic to equipment can land a player on LTIR
C. LTIRetired
I think the hope with Ericsson should be that he keeps playing well like he has been this season. Continuing that play probably only helps make him easier to move at some point during the next two seasons, and for something measureable rather than a cap dump from the other team. After 7/1/18, his full NTC opens up a bit by allowing him to choose 19 teams he won't go to.
How? The Wings are doing a perfect job. Everything you said is exactly what we want. Stay competitive in games and finish "near the bottom of the barrel"
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The Redwings have stayed competitive in the playoff race all year long and have stayed competitive in games. Arizona has not. What are you talking about?
Ericsson would officially retire. If he's put on LTIR, then I believe the Swedish Mafia stories quite a bit more. No tangible benefit from him LTIRetiring.
IT is still Holland making this goalie chaos.The defense being awful has nothing to do with Mrazek not learning to control a rebound. Hell, the defense being pretty clearly awful should make you more conservative in net than aggressive.
Aggressiveness in net is something you do when you know your teammates have your back and they're good enough to respond if you miss. If you know they can't cut off a cross ice pass to save themselves... you don't 100% lock in on the shooter and leave shutting the passing lane down to them.
I mean, if you have Hasek and he wants to play... you let him play. He should have stuck by Joseph, but it's probably a good thing it fell apart beacuse you would have had 38 year old Joseph on an 8M (6M after the rollback) in a cap world where the cap was 39 million.
Manny Legace was trash. He was a headcase and was garbage. The Wings did not lose anything by not going to him.
Ozzie was an okay goalie. But he caught a ton of flak. Late 90s Ozzie in the late 90s was current Jimmy Hoawrd. Good goalie but when the Wings won it was in spite of him, not because of him.
And it won’t matter for them. One impact player in a sea of trash on a dysfunctional organization is meaningless. There’s a reason they are where they are and it’s not deliberate nor can we become worse without going nuclear on the team.I'm saying that Detroit, barring a freak lottery win, will continue to stay in the 15-25 range year after year, and never get any elite players to build a real contender.
I don't think this staff has the ability to find the next cornerstone (or two) outside of at least a top 5, if not a top 3 pick.
And it's not like Arizona is losing 10-0 while Detroit is always in 1-goal games, either. "Competitive" is a lousy term, and a horrendously low bar to set.
EDIT: Ultimately, I don't view Detroit as a significantly more appealing on-ice product to watch, while Arizona (statistically) should have a measurably better chance at landing an impact player with their first pick.
I'm saying that Detroit, barring a freak lottery win, will continue to stay in the 15-25 range year after year, and never get any elite players to build a real contender.
But this doesn't show that Detroit is going to do well. It only shows that Arizona is going to have a hard time. It may well be that Detroit has a hard time, too. After all, the Wings are not exactly a marquee team at the draft podium these days.And it won’t matter for them. One impact player in a sea of trash on a dysfunctional organization is meaningless. There’s a reason they are where they are and it’s not deliberate nor can we become worse without going nuclear on the team.
Look at AZs draft history. It’s absolutely nothing outside the 1st round, and a very questionable 1st round history on top. They are dead last despite actually making some ”win now” moves the last 2 years. NHL success is not determined by the skill rating of the player you draft in the 1st round of a single draft year. It’s determined by being able to consistently find talent and NHLers from the 1st round to the 7th. Who do you bet on, AZ or Detroit?
Sure, that’s fair. But even if we’re not finding superstars like in the 90s, you can still look through our last 10 years and find many good or decent NHLers drafted beyond the top 10 or even outside the 1st.But this doesn't show that Detroit is going to do well. It only shows that Arizona is going to have a hard time. It may well be that Detroit has a hard time, too. After all, the Wings are not exactly a marquee team at the draft podium these days.
I meant in the standings, not the lottery. Last year they finished 25th in the standings.Well they drafted 9th last year and will likely draft around the same spot or lower this year So, as usual, you're wrong.