wtf i said something and people insulte me its my opinion , you see jagr won a cup because of lemieux . Jagr was sign in washington to bring the stanley cup wath he has done with capitals .......nothing .He was suppose to help the ny ranger make the playoff wath he did ...nothing . Jagr is a great player but i take guy like forsberg , sakik and iginla anytime before jagr . For wath ... because they are team player and push their team to make the best . I think ovechkin will have a great career ... yeah lot of point but not the kind of guy that bring a stanley cup like lemieux , gretzky and maybe crosby . So wath the problem in this board we cant talk hockey with no insult .