Did Carey Price live up to his 8 year, $84M contract?

[domiwroze]

I hate this thread so much. He didn't live up to it due to injuries, not because he wasn't good enough. When we was playing, he was well worth his contract.

Habs haters can stop spitting on one of the great of this game, he is "retired". Stop seeing him as a Habs.

Habs were a 40-60pts team without Price, they were straight up dookie dust. Go watch every single game of that SCF run, in which he is already injured playing on one knee. Then come back and apologize. In the final Price couldn't walk normally. He even said he couldn't get up stairs on his own, his knee was done

Outside of hockey, the investment of that contract on Price was well worth it too. He was the face of the club and a true gentleman with fans.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Both Carey and Joe won a Hart.
Both went to one final......neither played great in the final.

Joe played on strong teams and was never good in the playoffs. Price's playoff numbers actually go up in the postseason over his career.

Yeah, the Canadiens got curb stomped by Tampa. But honestly, if the Habs had won that series it would've been a bigger upset than 1971. Over his career Price was actually better in the playoffs than the regular season by two points. He was an awesome playoff player. Joe Thornton? Not so much. The guy never had a point per game playoff run. That's shocking considering how good he was in the regular season.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

How can anyone say yes when he played like 25% of eligible games with a sub .900 sv%?

One of Canada’s all-time greatest goalies at his peak, which was high, but injuries ruined him.

Because of the playoff runs. Because he led a terrible team to the finals. Honestly, how is that not worth ten mil? He was the first +ten mil player to win a playoff round and multiple rounds. Any GM in the world will pay for that. That was one of the best playoff runs for any individual players ever.

And when he was done, his cap hit didn't affect the team at all.

 

[BlueAzN]

No he did not but if he didnt get injured he wouldve been worth it

 

[PaulD]

Joe played on strong teams and was never good in the playoffs. Price's playoff numbers actually go up in the postseason over his career.

Yeah, the Canadiens got curb stomped by Tampa. But honestly, if the Habs had won that series it would've been a bigger upset than 1971. Over his career Price was actually better in the playoffs than the regular season by two points. He was an awesome playoff player. Joe Thornton? Not so much. The guy never had a point per game playoff run. That's shocking considering how good he was in the regular season.

Yes that all maybe true.
Regardless. Both are in the club of elite star players who made one final. Lost. And didn't play all that well once there.
Add Luongo, Lunquist, Subban, Iggy.
Not a knock on any of them....
just the way it worked out.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Yes that all maybe true.
Regardless. Both are in the club of elite star players who made one final. Lost. And didn't play all that well once there.
Add Luongo, Lunquist, Subban, Iggy.
Not a knock on any of them....
just the way it worked out.

Right.

But most players who made the final did it on strong teams.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Anyone working under clowns like Gainey and Bergevin deserve to be overpaid.

 

[PaulD]

Right.

But most players who made the final did it on strong teams.

lol There you go again.
We hear ya LG. Carey Price is the best goalie who ever lived and would have won 15 Cups if only he could have played on the best team every season.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

lol There you go again.
We hear ya LG. Carey Price is the best goalie who ever lived and would have won 15 Cups if only he could have played on the best team every season.

Not sure why you came back here out of the blue to compare him with Thornton?

Did you think that was a cup caliber club? Do you think Thornton played on cup caliber clubs?

And yes, Price would have won cups on good teams. There isn't a player in history who's one a cup on a team that bad.

 

[PaulD]

Not sure why you came back here out of the blue to compare him with Thornton?

Did you think that was a cup caliber club? Do you think Thornton played on cup caliber clubs?

And yes, Price would have won cups on good teams. There isn't a player in history who's one a cup on a team that bad.

Oh you're not sure?
Because I was replying to a post that literally compared him with Thorton.
Try to keep up

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Oh your not sure?
Because I was replying to a post that literally compared him with Thorton.
Try to keep up

I get that... but why would you think it's the same thing? One guy elevated his game in the postseason and the other played far worse. Why jump in on that?

 

[PaulD]

I get that... but why would you think it's the same thing? One guy elevated his game in the postseason and the other played far worse. Why jump in on that?

Well of course it's not exactly the same. Just through it in there.
Splitting hairs and defending anything YOU perceive to be a slight on Carey Price is your job.
cheers

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Well of course it's not exactly the same. Just through it in there.

It's not close to the same. One guy's on strong teams, the other on crappy ones. One guy is better in the playoffs and the other guy doesn't show up.

There's nothing to defend here.

 

[PaulD]

It's not close to the same. One guy's on strong teams, the other on crappy ones. One guy is better in the playoffs and the other guy doesn't show up.

There's nothing to defend here.

All I said was both were super stars. Both won a Hart. Both made one final and didn't play well in that final.
All dead on facts.

But I respect your take on why Joe sucks and Carey was God on a bad team.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

All I said was both were super stars. Both won a Hart. Both made one final and didn't play well in that final.
All dead on facts.

But I respect your take on why Joe sucks and Carey was God on a bad team.

It's not just one series and it's not just one year. Thorton consistently played on much better teams and consistently underperformed in the postseason. Price played on mostly medicore to poor teams and overperformed.

 

[PaulD]

It's not just one series and it's not just one year. Thorton consistently played on much better teams and consistently underperformed in the postseason. Price played on mostly medicore to poor teams and overperformed.

Great.
But I didnt compare their careers or teams did I.
I compared their play in the only final the two Hart Trophy stars played in.

You took that into a comparison of their careers, teams and multiple play off performances.

Cheers

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Great.
But I didnt compare their careers or teams did I.
I compared their play in the only final the two Hart Trophy stars played in.

And you omitted the circumstances. It's one thing to lose on a good team, another to lose to a bad one.

 

[PaulD]

And you omitted the circumstances. It's one thing to lose on a good team, another to lose to a bad one.

Neither played well in their own game and their own individual skills.
Careyvwas great against Vegas in the semis ...no great innthe final.Period.
He said so himself.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Neither played well in their own game and their own individual skills.
Careyvwas great against Vegas in the semis ...no great innthe final.Period.
He said so himself.

And if the Canadiens had won that series it would've been the biggest upset in Stanley Cup history.

That is radically different than Joe Thornton who played on good teams his whole career and underperformed. It's apples and oranges.

 

[PaulD]

And if the Canadiens had won that series it would've been the biggest upset in Stanley Cup history.

That is radically different than Joe Thornton who played on good teams his whole career and underperformed. It's apples and oranges.

If ? yea but they didn't. They got smoked.
The Islanders went 7 games with that lightening team the series before. Losing 1-0 . A Barzal goal post away from eliminating them. They did that on fantastic goaltending. Bolts immediately breezed by Carey and the Habs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If ? yea but they didn't. They got smoked.

Right. But you seem to want to say it's the same thing between those two players... it isn't.

 

[PaulD]

Right. But you seem to want to say it's the same thing between those two players... it isn't.

both played individually average in the finals.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

both played individually average in the finals.

And one was on a crap team playing against a powerhouse.

Not the same thing.

 

[PaulD]

And one was on a crap team playing against a powerhouse.

Not the same thing.

with a goalie that just played 3 great rounds.
And a poor 4th.

against a powerhouse team that just squeaked by the mighty Islanders. lol

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

with a goalie that just played 3 great rounds.
And a poor 4th.

Against a powerhouse defending cup champ on a crap team.

Again... not the same thing.