Rumor: Dhaliwal-Canucks to make 1 final push for Brock Boeser before July 1

[Izzy Goodenough]

Boeser is going from the outhouse in terms of value at the deadline (or so we were told) to the penthouse in terms of value on July 1st.

This is how you enter an unintended rebuild.

And they get paid for this.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Boeser is going from the outhouse in terms of value at the deadline to the penthouse in terms of value on July 1st.

This is how you enter an unintended rebuild.

And they get paid for this.

Dude you're like Trump and his obsession with Tarrifs over our management.

Funny how it was crickets from you and others last season.
And as usual you're talking out of your ass since the plan was always to hopefully re-sign Brock but unlike your assumption, they are not just throwing any deal to get it done.

And let's be honest, no matter what happens this summer you will find a way to turn it into a negative, it's what you do and it's pretty dumb.

You shit on the JT deal for example despite getting a young 2+3C with upside, a very good #3-4 Dman in Marcus a young potential #3 RHD with all the tools to be even higher than that and a good bottom six winger, all under team control with the Marcus and O'Conner on great deals.
That's a very good return for while very talented, a locker room cancer who dictated exactly where he wanted to go on a deal that likely doesn't age all that well.

The funny thing is, even the mistake deals they signed, they were able to get out of with very little damage.

You were insufferable under Benning but at least you had reason to bitch but as of now once you separate the fake news from reality,
The only really miss imo was not doing anything at the deadline, I think we should have added for the simple fact that despite all the crippling injuries, poor coaching and drama, the team was very much in the hunt for a playoff spot and giving the team a boost would have been good for the overall stink of everything that happened this year.
If we had gotten in, the overall optics of the team would look a lot better and the negative shit being spewed by the loser local media and trolls would be non existent.

Even still if you ignore the BS Hughes stuff or attacks on EP that are frankly ridiculous, the team has great goaltending and Dcorp basically built by this management as well as an AHL team six wins from winning the Calder cup with a team almost entirely built by this regime.

I genuinely don't get how you can look at everything objectively and come to the stance you have,
in fact you are basically blaming them for things that haven't actually happened yet, or for things that never happened, or things that are just made up or in this case with Brock, factually wrong.

 

[bossram]

Vancouver is the craziest place to play in the NHL. Players love playing for the city and fans, and historically, the organization has always been known to treat players extremely well.

Unfortunately the Vancouver media is responsible for many players no longer wanting anything to do with playing there. They just can’t help themselves from creating this soap opera atmosphere.

Boeser is no different. It’s just not worth it anymore. He’s been put through the ringer. It’s hard to imagine he won’t have enough interest at the dollars he’s looking for, to walk away. It’s the ONLY way he returns. If the money they’re offering, or close to it, just isn’t there anywhere else.

This is just false. You clearly don't know the market.

The "Vancouver media is tough/critical" narrative used to be true, back in the days when there were real reporters covering the team. It's absolutely not today. Most of the beat writers and radio hosts are willing to sing the praises of any remotely positive development. The problem is outside of one season, they've just been a terribly-run organization for a decade.

Of this already soft coverage, Boeser is probably one of the players that gets the least criticism because he seems to be a genuinely nice guy and everyone who talks to him likes him.

This, "the media is running Boeser out of town thing" isn't a thing. It's not from the media. It's from the Canucks brass. They've been slagging Boeser, publicly dumping on him, and yo-yoing contract talks with him. JR and Allvin are the ones saying it! No spin is even needed from the media. All you have to do is just listen to management. If you think it's the media's fault for covering things that management is verbatim saying, well, you have a strange understanding of what they're supposed to do.

 

[Chainshot]

Aren’t all Canadian markets fishbowls though?
Fans out here love Boeser. I think the media treat him well too. He’s respected and liked.
This love of Boeser by the fans here is why (imo) Van management floated they are making another run at signing him. I don’t think they truly intend to keep Boeser. This is propaganda to appease the fan base. It’s much like with Tocchet. JR announced publicly the club made the biggest offer ever for a coach, while knowing full well it would be 15 million short of what Tocchet was going to get from another club. Imo JR knew Tocchet was leaving, and was providing the excuse, “We made an excellent offer; it’s him, not us”
Same here with Boeser. “It’s him; not us”.

Agreed. This very much seems like a poorly disguised spin doctoring when Boeser does sign somewhere else so that the Canucks can put forward claims of "See! We TRIED SO HARD! It was him, not us" to their fans as though the fans are children.

Good to know Dhaliwal can carry that much water for the team, must get the best seat in the press box or something.

 

[TageGod]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

Well they effectively went from having two #1 centers to none. If Pettersson can rebound to his at or near PPG level of play, that would help immensely.

 

[Goatlender]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

-Vezina nominated goalie missed 80% of the season (Silovs proved to not be NHL ready and probably cost us about 5-6 games, which ended up making the difference in missing the playoffs);

-Pettersson is injured and is 50% as effective as years past;

-interpersonal issues with Miller, their other 100 point centre, so he takes a leave of absence and is traded;

-Boeser concussion which took some time for him to recover and regain form;

-Hoglander regression; and

-Management doing a poor job constructing the defence in the offseason (letting Zadorov and Cole walk in favour of playing Deshernais, Juulsen, and Forbort - sometimes in top 4 minutes).

The path forward is obtaining a 2nd line centre and a top 6 winger (ideally two).

 

[TageGod]

-Vezina nominated goalie missed 80% of the season (Silovs proved to not be NHL ready and probably cost us about 5-6 games, which ended up making the difference in missing the playoffs);

-Pettersson is injured and is 50% as effective as years past;

-interpersonal issues with Miller, their other 100 point centre, so he takes a leave of absence and is traded;

-Boeser concussion which took some time for him to recover and regain form;

-Hoglander regression; and

-Management doing a poor job constructing the defence in the offseason (letting Zadorov and Cole walk in favour of playing Deshernais, Juulsen, and Forbort - sometimes in top 4 minutes).

Think they can bounce back if Boeser leaves?

 

[Goatlender]

Think they can bounce back if Boeser leaves?

It really depends on who they bring in.

But I think if Pettersson bounces back to 80+ points and Demko is healthy, then they are a playoff team. A lot of their season rides on their prospects, as it would be a huge boost if any of Willander, Lekkerimaki, Mancini, and Pettersson (defenceman) establish themselves as bona fide NHLers. Raty taking the next step and becoming a 3C would be huge too. And like I said, their biggest need to address this summer is acquiring at least a 2C and top 6 winger or two.

 

[RebuildinVan]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

Whatever it is itll likely involve trading away more draft picks

 

[Fatass]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

JR is smart. He builds from the net out. Got the top goalie tandem in the league. Got a top D core. Now he’s working on the forwards. He knows how to build a winner. And (imo) he will steer clear of Robertson.

 

[nergish]

Boeser is going from the outhouse in terms of value at the deadline (or so we were told) to the penthouse in terms of value on July 1st.

This is how you enter an unintended rebuild.

And they get paid for this.

Not a completely fair assessment, but I do somewhat agree with the sentiment.

It genuinely angers me to be told as a Canucks fan that Boeser had no trade value at the deadline. This guy is an unreal hockey player who can score goals, and a great person. He was in my opinion better than any other player traded on deadline day, outside of Rantanen.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

This is just false. You clearly don't know the market.

The "Vancouver media is tough/critical" narrative used to be true, back in the days when there were real reporters covering the team. It's absolutely not today. Most of the beat writers and radio hosts are willing to sing the praises of any remotely positive development. The problem is outside of one season, they've just been a terribly-run organization for a decade.

Of this already soft coverage, Boeser is probably one of the players that gets the least criticism because he seems to be a genuinely nice guy and everyone who talks to him likes him.

This, "the media is running Boeser out of town thing" isn't a thing. It's not from the media. It's from the Canucks brass. They've been slagging Boeser, publicly dumping on him, and yo-yoing contract talks with him. JR and Allvin are the ones saying it! No spin is even needed from the media. All you have to do is just listen to management. If you think it's the media's fault for covering things that management is verbatim saying, well, you have a strange understanding of what they're supposed to do.

Our media is terrible.
Blake price literally went on the air without any proof and said Tochett left because Quinn's gone no matter if we even won a cup this year.

Let that sink in for a second, that means when he accepted being the captain of this club, his intention was never to be here after this deal and playing with his brothers is paramount.

You realize how disrespectful that is to Quinn and what it insinuates?
I mean it's complete bullshit, normal people knew he was gone as soon as the flyers fired Torts and of course Blake walked it back and said gee maybe the media took what JR said the wrong way? Gee ya think since he literally was talking about trading for the brothers in jest

Our media is absolutely terrible when things aren't great, they were fine last year of course, no talk of Quinn leaving even tho winning meant nothing according to Blake.

Or how about the constant shitting on EP or Demko did you miss that and how they reacted? Or how about Asking Foote about if he felt his sons charges should have been a factor in getting hired or not? Seriously WTF is that.

Bottom line is ever since 2010 ish when the media attacked the owners in a bunch of hit pieces, they've been blacklisted from any scoops whatsoever it's why nothing ever gets leaked early and why they make shit up all the time, this is pretty common knowledge and not hard to see when you look at all the stupid shit made up over the years or how no trades or signings get leaked.
There's also the poll from a couple years ago resting our city the 2nd worst in the league for players liking of the media.
But no they're great like when Quinn had to be on oxygen cause of Covid or Demko wanted, yet he was literally at home in San Diego rehabbing and hadn't spoken to any media and Farhan admitted he was going off a bad source but ran it anyway.

Then their was the time they pressed Brock about comments made at the TDL by the GM while he was literally getting ready to lose his Dad, that was some classy shit, that the team sure appreciated.

 

[bossram]

Our media is terrible.
Blake price literally went on the air without any proof and said Tochett left because Quinn's gone no matter if we even won a cup this year.

Let that sink in for a second, that means when he accepted being the captain of this club, his intention was never to be here after this deal and playing with his brothers is paramount.

You realize how disrespectful that is to Quinn and what it insinuates?
I mean it's complete bullshit, normal people knew he was gone as soon as the flyers fired Torts and of course Blake walked it back and said gee maybe the media took what JR said the wrong way? Gee ya think since he literally was talking about trading for the brothers in jest

Our media is absolutely terrible when things aren't great, they were fine last year of course, no talk of Quinn leaving even tho winning meant nothing according to Blake.

Or how about the constant shitting on EP or Demko did you miss that and how they reacted? Or how about Asking Foote about if he felt his sons charges should have been a factor in getting hired or not? Seriously WTF is that.

Bottom line is ever since 2010 ish when the media attacked the owners in a bunch of hit pieces, they've been blacklisted from any scoops whatsoever it's why nothing ever gets leaked early and why they make shit up all the time, this is pretty common knowledge and not hard to see when you look at all the stupid shit made up over the years or how no trades or signings get leaked.
There's also the poll from a couple years ago resting our city the 2nd worst in the league for players liking of the media.
But no they're great like when Quinn had to be on oxygen cause of Covid or Demko wanted, yet he was literally at home in San Diego rehabbing and hadn't spoken to any media and Farhan admitted he was going off a bad source but ran it anyway.

Then their was the time they pressed Brock about comments made at the TDL by the GM while he was literally getting ready to lose his Dad, that was some classy shit, that the team sure appreciated.

This is a whole lot of made up nonsense. I'll concede that Price and Sekeres are the worst offenders in VAN media, but it's really not that bad.

1. Tocc left because the the team is dysfunctional and has no realistic chance at success. Part of that is a significant chance that Quinn will not be here in the future. These are just logical premises.

2. Literally every member of the media was fawning over this team last season. One decent season out of a decade. The bar has never been lower. Meanwhile people want to crucify PDB and RBA for "only" making the Conference Finals repeatedly. Pot meet kettle.

3. The media criticism of Petey and Demko's performances this season are really a lot less than I think it should have been. Most of the vitriol they received (mostly Petey) are from fans. A lot of what your rant is talking about is a conflation of social media chatter with actual media members.

4. What was made up? The Petey-Miller feud? It was real! The club eventually admitted it! Demko's repeated injury concerns? Real! Hiding a Mikheyev injury? Real! Botching Pearson's hand injury multiple times? Real! That the club doesn't value Boeser highly? Clearly real! Your example of exaggerating the COVID issues is legit, but it speaks volumes about the club that it was the media saying the Canucks should get more rest and recovery from COVID (and of course the players making that pitch themselves) rather than the club actually sticking up for them.

 

[Canucks LB]

Can someone tell me what VAN's path forward is? Feel like they went from contenders to needing to retool in a year.

Path forward is trade for a 2c and find 2 Top 6 wingers.
Unlikely, but that's the goal, gotta keep quinn happy