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Prospect Info: Devils Win #2 Overall -- Slafkovsky vs. Jiricek vs. Nemec

What should we do with #2?

  • Slafkovsky

    Votes: 220 61.5%

  • Jiricek

    Votes: 56 15.6%

  • Nemec

    Votes: 30 8.4%

  • Trade it

    Votes: 39 10.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 13 3.6%
  • Total voters
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Setec Astronomy said:
Tampa did not spend top picks on Point or Cirelli, i.e. taking either of those players came with zero opportunity cost, which is not the case with the Devils taking Cooley to play 3C instead of a potential high impact winger or defenseman.

There’s a reason why Turtoro, who is very impressed with himself, is not wealthy from betting on pro hockey.
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That’s not something that seems relevant at all. You should trust your scouts and pick who you think will be the best player. If it’s the center, pick the center. Do not care that he’ll play 18 and half minutes a game instead of 20.

Im not advocating picking one guy over the other, not suggesting this is how it will turn out or anything like that before people freak out, but I take it you’d be mad if we picked a Joel Armia and a Brayden Point goes with the next pick.
 
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Nico Hischier said:
Winning the draft lottery shouldn’t change our game plan. We were hoping one of the two top RD would fall to #5 and now we have our choice of either one.
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Who is "we"? I'm sure there is a lot of people here (like me) who wants Slaf but knew the odds were against us to get #2 so looked more at the defensemen because it was a more realistic scenario.
 
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If Columbus offered 6 and 12 for 2, would you do it?

Obviously there's a real shot that Nemec, Jiricek, Slaf are gone by pick 6, so you're taking a pretty sizeable risk by moving down to 6 (I think 5 would be a no brainer), but one could also still be there.

Is the risk of losing one of them and "settling" from someone like Kemell or Savoie worth getting pick 12 ? More or less just curious what people think. I'm assuming it will mostly be no's, but I do believe that its an interest proposition
 
SteveCangialosi123 said:
That’s not something that seems relevant at all. You should trust your scouts and pick who you think will be the best player. If it’s the center, pick the center. Do not care that he’ll play 18 and half minutes a game instead of 20.

Im not advocating picking one guy over the other, not suggesting this is how it will turn out or anything like that before people freak out, but I take it you’d be mad if we picked a Joel Armia and a Brayden Point goes with the next pick.
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You don’t just leave the draft to your scouts. The GM is there to build a team over the long haul. Where your organizational strengths and weaknesses lie definitely comes into play, and when you have a top two pick, there are other great players you’re necessarily passing on whoever you draft.

Obviously, if a bong gas mask video of Cooley comes out and he’s available in the second round, the Devils should take him even if somehow they also managed to trade Zacha for McDavid, relegating Cooley to fourth line center or whatever.
 
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Forge said:
If Columbus offered 6 and 12 for 2, would you do it?

Obviously there's a real shot that Nemec, Jiricek, Slaf are gone by pick 6, so you're taking a pretty sizeable risk by moving down to 6 (I think 5 would be a no brainer), but one could also still be there.

Is the risk of losing one of them and "settling" from someone like Kemell or Savoie worth getting pick 12 ? More or less just curious what people think. I'm assuming it will mostly be no's, but I do believe that its an interest proposition
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I mean, it likely wouldn't happen but I'd consider it. You're locked into getting a supreme talent with one of Nazar or Savoie at 6 and then you have a shot at adding a power forward like Cutter Gauthier at 12 or someone like Danila Yurov.
 
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Forge said:
If Columbus offered 6 and 12 for 2, would you do it?

Obviously there's a real shot that Nemec, Jiricek, Slaf are gone by pick 6, so you're taking a pretty sizeable risk by moving down to 6 (I think 5 would be a no brainer), but one could also still be there.

Is the risk of losing one of them and "settling" from someone like Kemell or Savoie worth getting pick 12 ? More or less just curious what people think. I'm assuming it will mostly be no's, but I do believe that its an interest proposition
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Yeah 5 and 12 would be so easy. In my fantasy world we move back to 6+12 and then use 6 to move back to 9+15 and have 9, 12, 15 and pick like 2 of Nazar/Lambert/Cutter, and Chesley
 
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beekay414 said:
Why be nervous? If they take him, we take Shane friggin' Wright. If Montreal galaxy brains this, we're golden.
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I really like Slaf, but that's what I think too. If Montreal overthinks this, it's a win for us.

Captain3rdLine said:
Montreals GM is at the Slovakia game again. I’m actually starting to get a little worried that they’ll like him enough to take him #1. Especially if he keeps this play up.
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For all we know, maybe they really like Nemec. I read he was there for the Czech game too, no?
 
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beekay414 said:
Why be nervous? If they take him, we take Shane friggin' Wright. If Montreal galaxy brains this, we're golden.
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Devs3cups said:
I really like Slaf, but that's what I think too. If Montreal overthinks this, it's a win for us.


For all we know, maybe they really like Nemec. I read he was there for the Czech game too, no?
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The more I watch Slafkovsky the more I just think he could really be a star at the NHL level. I think Wright is the safer pick and will very likely be a good player but I don’t think he has as high of upside.

And yes that’s possible but Hughes mentioned Wright and Slafkovsky when asked about the prospects at the top of the draft recently and Slafkovsky has seemed like the mostly to pass Wright lately. And he looks really good.


And I looked around but haven’t seen anything about him being at the Czech game. And he was at Slovakias last game I believe. Seems likely he’s watching Slafkovsky
 
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Captain3rdLine said:
The more I watch Slafkovsky the more I just think he could really be a star at the NHL level. I think Wright is the safer pick and will very likely be a good player but I don’t think he has as high of upside.
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Where's this idea that Wright doesn't have the upside come from? He's going to be a PPG, 2 way stalwart that you can play in all situations. He's the type of player you win Cups with. Think Kopitar or a PPG Bergeron. I get wanting flash but Wright is the clear cut best player in this draft for a reason and his upside is still immense.
 
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beekay414 said:
Why be nervous? If they take him, we take Shane friggin' Wright. If Montreal galaxy brains this, we're golden.
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Either that or swap picks with Arizona if they love Wright and try to grab one of their extra 1sts. Seems like a ton for them to give up but if they’re really desperate for that C, you never know. Then just take one of the dmen.

But I very much doubt MTL is passing on Wright.
 
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Forge said:
If Columbus offered 6 and 12 for 2, would you do it?

Obviously there's a real shot that Nemec, Jiricek, Slaf are gone by pick 6, so you're taking a pretty sizeable risk by moving down to 6 (I think 5 would be a no brainer), but one could also still be there.

Is the risk of losing one of them and "settling" from someone like Kemell or Savoie worth getting pick 12 ? More or less just curious what people think. I'm assuming it will mostly be no's, but I do believe that its an interest proposition
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If I had confidence that Slafovsky was a stud first line winger in the making, no, unless I had some further trade in the works for an impact player.
 
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beekay414 said:
Where's this idea that Wright doesn't have the upside come from? He's going to be a PPG, 2 way stalwart that you can play in all situations. He's the type of player you win Cups with. Think Kopitar or a PPG Bergeron. I get wanting flash but Wright is the clear cut best player in this draft for a reason and his upside is still immense.
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I've seen a lot of people say Wright's defense is overrated. I imagine due to people trying to compensate for his underwhelming production compared to expectations.
 
Captain3rdLine said:
The more I watch Slafkovsky the more I just think he could really be a star at the NHL level. I think Wright is the safer pick and will very likely be a good player but I don’t think he has as high of upside.

And yes that’s possible but Hughes mentioned Wright and Slafkovsky when asked about the prospects at the top of the draft recently and Slafkovsky has seemed like the mostly to pass Wright lately. And he looks really good.


And I looked around but haven’t seen anything about him being at the Czech game. And he was at Slovakias last game I believe. Seems likely he’s watching Slafkovsky
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I will say that with the #2 pick in the draft, anyone who we could potentially have a real shot at drafting (Wright, Slaf, Kemell, Cooley, Nemec, Jiricek) better have an avenue to being a star in all of our eyes LOL.

The size could make him a star in a way unique to the top of this draft class but I don't think that it necessarily gives him the best chance for success or necessarily the higher ceiling.
 
beekay414 said:
The fact that 107 points in 73 games is considered "underwhelming production" from Wright should tell you exactly how good he is.
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Pretty sure that’d be the worst CHL PPG for a 1OA pick. That’s underwhelming for a 1OA. He did get better as the year progressed at least.
 
It's hard to watch Slaf without thinking he's the perfect antidote to the problems Nico or Hughes sometimes have as far as sustaining zone time.

Imagine Jack not having to do something ridiculous every shift to gain those second or third chance rebounds.
 
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