devilsblood
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He's good now.Great. When he is 25 he might be good.
He's good now.Great. When he is 25 he might be good.
So is blake coleman. Neither are changing the direction of this team.He's good now.
Blake Coleman is 28.So is blake coleman. Neither are changing the direction of this team.
I think the problem is Nico's development has been a straight line.Development is not a straight line. This isn't a video game.
What does this mean? To me it implies that you are expecting some sort of exponential improvement in time....if that is a fair statement, what in the world gives you that hope?Blake Coleman is 28.
I expect the standard NHL player improvement.What does this mean? To me it implies that you are expecting some sort of exponential improvement in time....if that is a fair statement, what in the world gives you that hope?
What does this mean? To me it implies that you are expecting some sort of exponential improvement in time....if that is a fair statement, what in the world gives you that hope?
You literally haven't seen production improvement in 3 straight years. So you expect a more refine 50-is point player in the future? A 60 point player top out at 70 ish in his best year? Hardly foundational.I expect the standard NHL player improvement.
A 70 point center who plays a 200 ft game is absolutely a foundational piece. 100% the type of player you can build around.You literally haven't seen production improvement in 3 straight years. So you expect a more refine 50-is point player in the future? A 60 point player top out at 70 ish in his best year? Hardly foundational.
A lot of players have streaks in a short stretchs. ...Nico is on 3 years of nearly identical ppg.How about 16 points in 19 games since Hall was traded? That's a 70 point pace over nearly a quarter of a season.
I mean this is just a lie.You literally haven't seen production improvement in 3 straight years. So you expect a more refine 50-is point player in the future? A 60 point player top out at 70 ish in his best year? Hardly foundational.
Bergeron was one of the most important players in the league for years, for example. Every team would have killed to get that guy.A 70 point center who plays a 200 ft game is absolutely a foundational piece. 100% the type of player you can build around.
70 points guaranteed is a lot different than topping out at 70 one year. Nico is miles away from being a 70 point player. And 70 points is going to be low tier 1st line production their is nothing dominant or elite about the variables we are talking about.A 70 point center who plays a 200 ft game is absolutely a foundational piece. 100% the type of player you can build around.
No, he's really not "miles away". He's mediocre power play production away from hitting 70 points, which isn't that difficult of an ask if the team had anything close to a competent power play.70 points guaranteed is a lot different than topping out at 70 one year. Nico is miles away from being a 70 point player. And 70 points is going to be low tier 1st line production their is nothing dominant or elite about the variables we are talking about.
I mean this is just a lie.
D+1 - 52 points in 82 games
D+2 - 47 points in 69 games (55 point pace over 82 games)
D+3 - 32 points in 46 games so far (57 point pace over 82 games). If you project his current pace since the Hall trade, he's on track to hit 58 points in 77 games (61 point pace over 82 games)
He's absolutely improved, but the thing he is still lacking is top quality power play production. His even strength production has been and continues to be among the best.
A lot of players have streaks in a short stretchs. ...Nico is on 3 years of nearly identical ppg.
Year one .63 ppg
Year Two .68 ppg
Year 3 .69 ppg
Career .66 ppg game.
There is zero improvement in 3 years that is a flat line.
0.69 is higher than 0.63. Your own post supports that he has improved while you blindly contradict that fact.Year one .63 ppg
Year Two .68 ppg
Year 3 .69 ppg
Career .66 ppg game.
There is zero improvement in 3 years that is a flat line.
Actually his 5v5 #'s were better in his rookie year, but of course that was playing alongside Hall who was having a monster offensive year.I mean this is just a lie.
D+1 - 52 points in 82 games
D+2 - 47 points in 69 games (55 point pace over 82 games)
D+3 - 32 points in 46 games so far (57 point pace over 82 games). If you project his current pace since the Hall trade, he's on track to hit 58 points in 77 games (61 point pace over 82 games)
He's absolutely improved, but the thing he is still lacking is top quality power play production. His even strength production has been and continues to be among the best.
Another goal post shift.70 points guaranteed is a lot different than topping out at 70 one year. Nico is miles away from being a 70 point player. And 70 points is going to be low tier 1st line production their is nothing dominant or elite about the variables we are talking about.