GDT: Devils vs. Bruins

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There's more to the game than pts. Barzal is a center. Zacha is not. Barzal is having his best season defensive and playing decently well. Zacha is Zacha. Barzal is a line driver. Zacha is a passenger. It's not meaningful because 100 times out of 100 Barzal is still the clear cut easy choice that you don't think twice about.
The question was whether he has closed the gap, and he has to a pretty large extent. Yes Barzal is clearly the better player, you still take him over Zacha without thinking. But is the gap between the two the same now as it was 3 years ago? Heck no, Zacha has definitely closed the gap in a meaningful way.
 
Nice win to end the Season home-stands.

Gives the fans attending some good feelings going home.

Now we get to watch them go on the road and lose the rest of the way..... :sarcasm:

Seriously, though, I hope they continue to play their asses off and leave it all on the ice.


Oh and YEGOR is phenomenal.

Zacha has found himself.

Bratt has some nice moves (understatement).

Hughes is Hughes.

Boqvist had another nice night.
 
The question was whether he has closed the gap, and he has to a pretty large extent. Yes Barzal is clearly the better player, you still take him over Zacha without thinking. But is the gap between the two the same now as it was 3 years ago? Heck no, Zacha has definitely closed the gap in a meaningful way.
The gap is still the size of Texas however. And that's no knock on Zacha. It's because Barzal is a franchise player and maybe one of the top four guys in the league. Yes nobody is McDavid but Crosby is aging; Matthews is a better finisher but maybe not a more impactful player than Barzal, and you might come up with a couple other names but Barzal is in that elite class.

And that's no knock on the Devils. Five other teams and maybe more passed on Barzal before we didn't draft him and some others before he was drafted. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

I love the season Zacha is having. If his naysayers aren't silenced now, there's not much one can say to win such a conversation. Everyone is entitled to their view.
 
The gap is still the size of Texas however. And that's no knock on Zacha. It's because Barzal is a franchise player and maybe one of the top four guys in the league. Yes nobody is McDavid but Crosby is aging; Matthews is a better finisher but maybe not a more impactful player than Barzal, and you might come up with a couple other names but Barzal is in that elite class.

And that's no knock on the Devils. Five other teams and maybe more passed on Barzal before we didn't draft him and some others before he was drafted. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

I love the season Zacha is having. If his naysayers aren't silenced now, there's not much one can say to win such a conversation. Everyone is entitled to their view.

I don't think you could have overrated Barzal more if you tried.

To even imply he is better then Matthews is absurd.
 
You mean when @Omar Little said that Bratt was killing the Powerplay or such nonsense? :eyeroll:

Look, I saw it ok? It was scary. Bratt tied the PP to a railroad track when the 5:15 was headed round the bend for the far gulch. First Bratt demanded that the school marm pay the mortgage and then he twirled his greasy handlebar mustache and laughed fiendishly. I think that Butcher arrived with only seconds remaining, skating at least 100 feet from the bench in the minute or so the scene unfolded to untie the PP and save it from certain death as the 5:15 sped past. I think Recchi was out of his brain on the train.
 
I don't think you could have overrated Barzal more if you tried.

To even imply he is better then Matthews is absurd.
Oh I definitely think he’s as good for any club. Take Matthews support from around him and he’s just a sniper. Take Barzal away from the Isles and they are quite mediocre. Put him on any other team and they are immediately formidable. Outside of McDavid he’s the best skater in the league.

Just my view but I stick by it.
 
Oh I definitely think he’s as good for any club. Take Matthews support from around him and he’s just a sniper. Take Barzal away from the Isles and they are quite mediocre. Put him on any other team and they are immediately formidable. Outside of McDavid he’s the best skater in the league.

Just my view but I stick by it.

"Just a sniper". The best sniper in the league. Their on ice stats are similar. Matthews is a far better goal scorer and even has the higher primary assist rate.
 
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Oh I definitely think he’s as good for any club. Take Matthews support from around him and he’s just a sniper. Take Barzal away from the Isles and they are quite mediocre. Put him on any other team and they are immediately formidable. Outside of McDavid he’s the best skater in the league.

Just my view but I stick by it.

You are always entitled to your opinion, but I'm skeptical that Barzal single handedly. makes any team formidable. It's not a knock on him. McDavid and Draisatl didn't make Edmonton formidable. It's just the nature of hockey that even the best players need support. Barzal is probably miscast on the NYI and would have more offensive impact on another team but he is still given good support and structure and it's not unreasonable to ask a top player to be defensively responsible. That's cut into his scoring somewhat. He's a great player and would great on any team, but in my view I think if you put him on NJ, the team would be better, but assume he plays Jack's minutes, I'm not sure how much better. Four or five wins maybe? Matthews would seem to have a similar impact to me, but in any event, they are both great players and NJ should be so lucky that Hughes develops to that level of player. If NJ is really lucky, Hischier will develop to the tier of a Bergeron type player. How amazing would the top six look then?
 
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The gap is still the size of Texas however. And that's no knock on Zacha. It's because Barzal is a franchise player and maybe one of the top four guys in the league. Yes nobody is McDavid but Crosby is aging; Matthews is a better finisher but maybe not a more impactful player than Barzal, and you might come up with a couple other names but Barzal is in that elite class.

And that's no knock on the Devils. Five other teams and maybe more passed on Barzal before we didn't draft him and some others before he was drafted. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.

I love the season Zacha is having. If his naysayers aren't silenced now, there's not much one can say to win such a conversation. Everyone is entitled to their view.

Look up impact player and you'll see a picture of Mathews he can do it all with some grit too...Take him over Barzal any day
 
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Ovi was also one of the worst defensive players in the league. Matthews isn't great but he's competent which blows Ovi away
Let's see if in 20 years he's the greatest or 2nd greatest goal scorer of all time lol. Wouldn't that be crazy? Both they guys would score 100 in the 70s.
 
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"Just a sniper". The best sniper in the league. Their on ice stats are similar. Matthews is a far better goal scorer and even has the higher primary assist rate.
I should learn not to argue but look at who he’s surrounded with? My belief is if you put him on our club we don’t become as competitive as if you give us Barzal. We’d be a better team with the latter. There’s no settling such debates.
 
Look up impact player and you'll see a picture of Mathews he can do it all with some grit too...Take him over Barzal any day
Fair enough but also I find I got sidetracked on the point, because comparing Barzal to Mathews really wasn't my point here anyway. (easy to get sidetracked in any discussion). The discussion was about Zacha and in maintaining that Barzal is or isn't in Mathews class I got way off the topic. But the old hare that we didn't draft Barzal instead of Zacha reared it's head again and I chased it down the rabbit hole.
 
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