Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

MVP Zacha

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For those of you that recognize the history of the Organization:
On this date 50 years ago (Nov. 13, 1974), the Scouts recorded their first-ever home win with a 5-3 victory against the cross-state St. Louis Blues at Kemper Arena.
Ed Gilbert scored two goals for Kansas City. Other K.C. goal-scorers were Robin Burns, Jim McElmury and Richard Lemieux.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey (pictured below on the left in a game versus Boston) had two of the three Blues' goals, including one just two minutes into the game.
For those of you who do not know, Mr. Bailey was killed on Sept. 11, 2001 when United Airlines Flight 175 was deliberately crashed into the south tower of New York's World Trade Center.

Since I now live in Kansas I am in a KC Scouts Facebook group and I stole this from there. There are actually a few Scouts players that are members of that group and I will say that most of the people in that group have followed the team and are Devils fans.
 

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Monday's episode which I missed since I was distracted by sports. Looks like Chris cost himself $1,000 in prize money with a non-strategic Final Jeopardy wager. [/petpeeve]


You and my Dad need to watch Jeopardy together. He pauses the show before they get to their Final Jeopardy answers to tell us what all three wagers should be.
 
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Not a great faceoff guy (and maybe better as wing), but Martin Pospisil from Calgary is very speedy and had 200+ hits last year. Takes too many penalties and hasn’t been good this year, but he’d be an interesting name to look at if they’re selling.
I would love to get Pospisil, I’ve had that pipe dream for a while, but they don’t really have any reason to trade a future RFA making 1m unless we weirdly overpay.
 

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When Steve Valiquette isn’t slithering around the MSG studios he’s President and Chief Executive Officer for Clear Sight Analytics.

They sell proprietary data, but have a top ten samples on their websites. Not sure I even get exactly what some are showing but Jack Hughes makes the lists so they must be on to something, right?
Rankings Link

Enjoy if you’re into this sorta thing.

Plus Cotter!
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Plus Bratt!
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You and my Dad need to watch Jeopardy together. He pauses the show before they get to their Final Jeopardy answers to tell us what all three wagers should be.

It's reassuring to know that I'm not the only weirdo who does that. Granted I suppose it might be difficult in the heat of the moment to do the mental math, but that's definitely something I would drill ahead of time if I knew I was going on the show. 1st place has the most limited option but 2nd and 3rd place can have some strategic wagers. I've gotten in arguments with friends who didn't understand that finishing in 2nd place with "$30,000" doesn't mean they go home with $30,000.

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It's reassuring to know that I'm not the only weirdo who does that. Granted I suppose it might be difficult in the heat of the moment to do the mental math, but that's definitely something I would drill ahead of time if I knew I was going on the show. 1st place has the most limited option but 2nd and 3rd place can have some strategic wagers. I've gotten in arguments with friends who didn't understand that finishing in 2nd place with "$30,000" doesn't mean they go home with $30,000.

My understanding is that players get 'unlimited' time to make their wager, so some practice on this should make it easy. Biggest mistake I see, as you've pointed out, is people in 3rd wagering money when they should be wagering 0 and hoping for the other players to get it wrong.
 

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From The Athletic:

The NHL’s 9 most impressive bounce-back players this season​

Jonas Siegenthaler, New Jersey Devils

There are several reasons why the Devils had such a disappointing season last year, and their underperforming blue line is high on the list. Damon Severson and Ryan Graves’ offseason departures stung and Dougie Hamilton’s season-ending injury was a major blow, but Siegenthaler and John Marino’s down years were the final blow to the back end’s stability.

Siegenthaler, who’d been an underrated shutdown defender during his first two seasons in New Jersey, struggled mightily in 2023-24. Corey Sznajder’s tracking data revealed he was becoming a turnover machine and allowing rush chances at appalling rates. The Devils were outscored by 10 goals during his five-on-five minutes last season.

The 27-year-old defender is back to his reliable old self again. Siegenthaler and his new partner Johnathan Kovacevic (who’s been one of the most pleasant surprises in the NHL since being acquired from the Canadiens) have been assigned the toughest matchups on New Jersey’s blue line and are crushing it — Siegenthaler’s 57 percent expected goal share is the best mark of his career and they’re outscoring opponents 17-8 at five-on-five.

Siegenthaler has been the Devils’ most valuable defenseman so far this year, according to Dom Luszczyszyn’s Game Score model. He’s been one of the quiet drivers behind New Jersey’s rise back up the standings.
 

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No, Its Tom Fitzgerald. Says so on the thumbnail.
I was about to say there’s no way the one guy is Tom Fitzgerald and show the screenshot, and then it actually took me screenshotting it to realize that it clearly says Pierre McGuire and some other guy. I guess they host the podcast.
 

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From The Athletic:

The NHL’s 9 most impressive bounce-back players this season​

Jonas Siegenthaler, New Jersey Devils

There are several reasons why the Devils had such a disappointing season last year, and their underperforming blue line is high on the list. Damon Severson and Ryan Graves’ offseason departures stung and Dougie Hamilton’s season-ending injury was a major blow, but Siegenthaler and John Marino’s down years were the final blow to the back end’s stability.

Siegenthaler, who’d been an underrated shutdown defender during his first two seasons in New Jersey, struggled mightily in 2023-24. Corey Sznajder’s tracking data revealed he was becoming a turnover machine and allowing rush chances at appalling rates. The Devils were outscored by 10 goals during his five-on-five minutes last season.

The 27-year-old defender is back to his reliable old self again. Siegenthaler and his new partner Johnathan Kovacevic (who’s been one of the most pleasant surprises in the NHL since being acquired from the Canadiens) have been assigned the toughest matchups on New Jersey’s blue line and are crushing it — Siegenthaler’s 57 percent expected goal share is the best mark of his career and they’re outscoring opponents 17-8 at five-on-five.

Siegenthaler has been the Devils’ most valuable defenseman so far this year, according to Dom Luszczyszyn’s Game Score model. He’s been one of the quiet drivers behind New Jersey’s rise back up the standings.
Could not be happier for him. Took a team friendly deal and is playing his nuts off now.
 

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From The Athletic:

The NHL’s 9 most impressive bounce-back players this season​

Jonas Siegenthaler, New Jersey Devils

There are several reasons why the Devils had such a disappointing season last year, and their underperforming blue line is high on the list. Damon Severson and Ryan Graves’ offseason departures stung and Dougie Hamilton’s season-ending injury was a major blow, but Siegenthaler and John Marino’s down years were the final blow to the back end’s stability.

Siegenthaler, who’d been an underrated shutdown defender during his first two seasons in New Jersey, struggled mightily in 2023-24. Corey Sznajder’s tracking data revealed he was becoming a turnover machine and allowing rush chances at appalling rates. The Devils were outscored by 10 goals during his five-on-five minutes last season.

The 27-year-old defender is back to his reliable old self again. Siegenthaler and his new partner Johnathan Kovacevic (who’s been one of the most pleasant surprises in the NHL since being acquired from the Canadiens) have been assigned the toughest matchups on New Jersey’s blue line and are crushing it — Siegenthaler’s 57 percent expected goal share is the best mark of his career and they’re outscoring opponents 17-8 at five-on-five.

Siegenthaler has been the Devils’ most valuable defenseman so far this year, according to Dom Luszczyszyn’s Game Score model. He’s been one of the quiet drivers behind New Jersey’s rise back up the standings.
I don't have the Athletic so not sure what is shown in the link, but according to NST Sieg's did not have a high giveaway rate last year. Much higher this year. Is that different then turnovers?

And this is not to question the main point which is Sieg's has been much better this year, but I'm not sure the turnovers and the rush chances(which I think might be more a fwd problem then a d-man problem) are the main reasons.
 

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I would also add that the Devils are winning playing a simple, straight forward brand of hockey. Being healthy, this is letting the Devils win games because of their talent and effort.

Last year, I don’t think players believe in the team’s concept and would freestyle constantly to try and improve the play. This year the team appears to have really bought in, which you can see by players all generally making the same choices when in the same situations.

I don’t think this is the final form of this team though. I think by seasons end we will see wrinkles to the simple play that hopefully emphasizes the talent rather than just not getting in the way.
 

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