Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

[njdevils1982]

i was pumped for most of the afternoon for tonight's game vs montreal only to sit down right now and realize it's still wednesday

 

[StevenToddIves]

I'd be interested to hear about your successes here!

I predicted Adam Fox would be a perennial Norris contender before he set foot in the NHL, so I consider myself to be pretty good in this area as well. I also had Seider over Broberg which I think was pretty unusual at the time.

I don't disagree, I think he could be a low end #1, but I think he'll be the type of guy who would probably be a #2 on a cup contender. Which is why I referred to him as a top pairing dman - he could be a 1B or a 2A IMO.


It's not just the opening 9 games of this season. His struggles began at the mid-point of last season:

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How am I underselling Nemec when I essentially project him to have the same ceiling as you?

I had Adam Fox as a 1st rounder in 2016. Had Seider as a top 10 pick and Broberg as a 2nd rounder in 2019. So, agreed on all those counts. I undersold Fox, if I recall I had him #32 overall, but considering his consensus ranking was probably low 2nd/early 3rd I'm pretty happy with my assessment.

I'm not worried about Nemec's struggles. He's shown flashes of being a very good player, and most of his mistakes have been attributable to being a 19-20 year old D in the best league in the world. It's tough for 2-way defensemen to acclimate, there's just so much to learn.

Again, I agree that Seamus Casey should not be a trade candidate. Though I would not consider him to have greater ability than an Adam Fox, I'd rank him ahead of Lane Hutson, to name three young D with similar attributes and limitations.

 

[My3Sons]

I had Adam Fox as a 1st rounder in 2016. Had Seider as a top 10 pick and Broberg as a 2nd rounder in 2019. So, agreed on all those counts. I undersold Fox, if I recall I had him #32 overall, but considering his consensus ranking was probably low 2nd/early 3rd I'm pretty happy with my assessment.

I'm not worried about Nemec's struggles. He's shown flashes of being a very good player, and most of his mistakes have been attributable to being a 19-20 year old D in the best league in the world. It's tough for 2-way defensemen to acclimate, there's just so much to learn.

Again, I agree that Seamus Casey should not be a trade candidate. Though I would not consider him to have greater ability than an Adam Fox, I'd rank him ahead of Lane Hutson, to name three young D with similar attributes and limitations.

You’ve had more hits than that. You knew Samberg was a player and you’ve called some guys that were flawed also. @WhiskeyYerTheDevils i will vouch for STI’s evaluation of defenders. Especially thr unheralded guys who have more to their game than may meet the eye.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

I wish @WhiskeyYerTheDevils would post in our sub a bit more. I always look forward to reading his posts. Same for @StevenToddIves prospect analysis , @Brodeur and his awesome hockey travel/draft stories & @Jason MacIsaac whom I belive is/was a real hockey scout.

 

[glenwo2]

We need more @WhiskeyYerTheDevils and less Jack Daniels.

 

[devilsfan950003]

Utica is bad because they're not willing to spend big on UFA AHLers and they don't have any big-time prospects there besides Casey. As I said in the AHL thread, they should have a good defense there, though - they have decent AHLers + Vilen + Casey.



Foote has played 202 games in the 5+ seasons since he has been drafted. That is a ridiculously small number but because of COVID and injuries it's what he's done. He could use a good run of games down there playing big minutes instead of playing 7 minutes with a nothing 4th line.

Foote should be sent up to play left wing on that 4th line, nice shot, slow as hell. He would have to pass through waivers I think if he was sent down again. Not sure what to do about Tatar? How about Chase Stillman? He's a fast skater, endless motor, plays mostly right wing but has played center before. Could they give Stillman a try at center?