Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - season begins!

[Cheddabombs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851640381319839925

Goals per 20? What happened to goals per 60, are we downsizing?

 

[My3Sons]

Goals per 20? What happened to goals per 60, are we downsizing?

Nobody would believe the goals per 60 numbers.

 

[Zippy316]

Why in God's name would you trade one or both of Nemec and Casey to accomodate an an old, high paid, waning D-man for a year or 2 when the 2 you talk about moving, are going to be very good NHL D-men for the next 10-15 years (give or take a couple)? Kovy won't be in NJ much longer either, if at all after this season. The 2 you put on the blocks will be big pieces in a short period of time and add in the big Russian and the NJ Devils will have one of the NHL's finest, while being among the youngest, D-corps under contract for a long time. It also won't have a negative effect on the team's cup window. The overall team will still be young when considering a team's window for cup contention.

I’m not saying it will or should happen, but it could happen. They will be highly valuable assets that could bring in a missing piece.

The most plausible scenario for me would be if Nemec or Casey is the main piece in a deal to bring Quinn to NJ. He would have one year left in 26-27 and if Vancouver thinks he’s on the outs at the end of the year, they could recoup some assets.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851640381319839925

*eyeball emoji*

 

[JrFischer54]

Why in God's name would you trade one or both of Nemec and Casey to accomodate an an old, high paid, waning D-man for a year or 2 when the 2 you talk about moving, are going to be very good NHL D-men for the next 10-15 years (give or take a couple)? Kovy won't be in NJ much longer either, if at all after this season. The 2 you put on the blocks will be big pieces in a short period of time and add in the big Russian and the NJ Devils will have one of the NHL's finest, while being among the youngest, D-corps under contract for a long time. It also won't have a negative effect on the team's cup window. The overall team will still be young when considering a team's window for cup contention.

being a realist i dont see the devils in a couple years having all these young d men on the ice at the same time. if everything goes to plan on their development including the one they drafted last year also. its a great problem to have and i just think they ship someone off for help in other area/s

I’m not saying it will or should happen, but it could happen. They will be highly valuable assets that could bring in a missing piece.

The most plausible scenario for me would be if Nemec or Casey is the main piece in a deal to bring Quinn to NJ. He would have one year left in 26-27 and if Vancouver thinks he’s on the outs at the end of the year, they could recoup some assets.

i do agree with you about them trading at some point but i dont see them trading for quinn knowing that he will all but eventually end up here anyway for free.

 

[Guttersniped]

it's early so maybe i'm reading this wrong but it seems like almost every team increased a ridiculous amount YOY. the bruins for example increased their value by 1.3 BILLION dollars in a year? that can't be right.

This is actually the 1st list I’ve seen that had all the NHL teams over 1b.

Here’s Forbes list from Dec 2023

https://www.forbes.com/lists/nhl-valuations/

As you can see, the bottom tier on that was pretty pathetic.

The sale prices of the Sens (950m) and the Coyotes (1.2B), and the Panthers winning the Cup, jacked up the value of the bottom tier on this though.

If the least valuable teams are worth 1b then the top teams are worth a lot more.

This list doesn’t only reflect the insane sale prices for some of the least enticing franchises in the NHL but that has to be a big factor.

I don’t subscribe to Sportico so I can’t read the article.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Devils franchise value increased 47% over last year. Top 5 increase in the NHL.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1851608121065500918

Besides the team not leaving I find it impossible to find this as a good thing when the fans don't see any benefit from it. Lower costs of tickets? Nope, higher. Lower costs of concessions? Nope, higher. Lower costs of merch? Nope, higher.

Maybe everyone's actually been buying the ridiculously priced item of the games...

 

[Ripshot 43]

Besides the team not leaving I find it impossible to find this as a good thing when the fans don't see any benefit from it. Lower costs of tickets? Nope, higher. Lower costs of concessions? Nope, higher. Lower costs of merch? Nope, higher.

Maybe everyone's actually been buying the ridiculously priced item of the games...

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Was thinking very similarly to you. The NHL just released a Lululemon line too and it’s $150 for the tiniest jacket/top I’ve ever seen. Less material, more cost!

 

[Its Always Sundstrom]

Was thinking very similarly to you. The NHL just released a Lululemon line too and it’s $150 for the tiniest jacket/top I’ve ever seen. Less material, more cost!

Yeah but that gusset is priceless.

 

[NjDevsRR]

*eyeball emoji*

 

[Ripshot 43]

Yeah but that gusset is priceless.

*Bing search activated*

 

[dgibb10]

Dillon is down to 13:39 of 5v5 toi since Hughes Pesce arrived, lowest on the team. Hamilton is at 15:49, 2nd lowest.

Only a 3 game sample and definitely skewed a bit by special teams, but I expect Hughes and Pesce to play more as they get up to speed.

In all situations Dillon is again 6th in TOI at 16:28. Hughes is 5th at 17:45, while the other 4 are in that 20-21 minute range.

So Dillon is already playing "bottom pair minutes" and again, I expect Hughes's minutes to go up. Though not quite sure where, 5v5 or eventually PP1.

Also, and again, super small sample, but does Pesce not look like the perfect partner for Luke thus far? Even in theory it makes great sense. So if you can play them fairly big minutes, but not the heavy defensive minutes that Sieg's and Kova play, that puts Hughes Pesce in a great spot. And then we roll out Hamilton on the "3rd pair"? Seems a little unfair really.

Then you break up Siegs Kovacevic and play Siegs and Hamilton in top pairing minutes.

Kovacevic is a nice story through 12 games, but he's not the long term top pairing, second pairing, or even third pairing RD on this team.

If playing Siegs and Hamilton together is better for Hamilton, that's the move you make