Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason part III

[NjDevsRR]

I am on the Noesen first line train

Every year the NHL has that random winger playing with elite talent potting 30/40 goals out of nowhere

Maybe its Noesen

 

[MadDevil]

I am on the Noesen first line train

Every year the NHL has that random winger playing with elite talent potting 30/40 goals out of nowhere

Maybe its Noesen

Plug him into Toffoli's spot when he played with Jack and Bratt, and let Tuna rip it up with Nico and Timo.

 

[Brodeur]

Would Grit be eligible to play in the playoffs?

He'd be eligible as long as the ELC was registered for 2024-25. It'd be somewhat unlikely that the coaching staff would throw him even though Luke got some games right away.

Practice: 4/17 - Gusev | Vegas Golden Knights

Practice: 4/17 - Gusev

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Depending on when Gritsyuk's KHL season ends, he could follow the same path as Nikita Gusev. Gusev signed with Vegas as they were in a first round series against San Jose in spring 2019. He joined them for a couple of practices but never dressed. Vegas was eliminated in the first round, so who knows if Gusev would have been an option down the line.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

If Gritsyuk becomes a top 6 forward that will be fantastic. Will make the wait 100% worth it.

His KHL numbers are good , there really isn't any part of his game that screams "won't translate or work in the NHL". I wonder how his skating is....as long as it is average with his vision and shooting ability I could see him being a 60 to 70 point player.

 

[Better Call Sal]

When you're unable to sleep, you make gifs.

 

[Clam Jensen]

I am on the Noesen first line train

Every year the NHL has that random winger playing with elite talent potting 30/40 goals out of nowhere

Maybe its Noesen

I’m all for it. He also posted a super cute insta story of his daughter chanting “let’s go devils”, so I want him to kill it this season.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Hypothetically, if NJ were to somehow pull off a blockbuster trade for Brady Tkachuk, is there a way for this to happen while staying under the cap?

New Jersey Cap Space (4,976,103)

Brady Tkachuk (8,205,714)

Dawson Mercer + Jonas Siegenthaler ($3,400,000) + Seamus Casey

I don't think that is enough value and sort of craters our defense moving froward.

 

[Nico Hischier]

Hypothetically, if NJ were to somehow pull off a blockbuster trade for Brady Tkachuk, is there a way for this to happen while staying under the cap?

New Jersey Cap Space (4,976,103)

Brady Tkachuk (8,205,714)

Dawson Mercer + Jonas Siegenthaler ($3,400,000) + Seamus Casey

I don't think that is enough value and sort of craters our defense moving froward.

No we don’t need tkachuk now since we got a similar player in Meier and we cannot afford tkachuk either way. And that offer would get best easily

 

[Hisch13r]

Based on what? I know he started playing better late in the year and he was on the right side, but I had thought it was more so due to getting healthier.

Even then he was on the left during that stretch and Bratt the right. The whole "Meier can't play LW" shit is so dumb.

Bratt-JHughes-Mercer
Tatar-Hischier-Meier
Palat-Huala-Noesen
Cotter-Lazar-Bastian

I like these lines for opening night and Keefe has some flexibility to switch them up.

Huala can reunite with Jack and Mercer can move to 3C. Palat can move up to one of the scoring lines and Tatar down to 3LW.

Yeah that's the way to currently run it. God I do not ever need to see Haula-Jack again. Mercer's not shown he can handle being a center and even if he could I'd rather be moving Palat or Noesen up and keeping Haula as the 3C and Mercer a top 6 W.

 

[Hisch13r]

Gotta reunite Tatar-Nico-Mercer imo opening night and see if they have any juice from the 22-23 year. Move away from it as soon it doesn't work, that also gives Jack the two best wingers on the team which would be an awesome sight.

Cannot agree. Yeah you're giving Jack the 2 best wingers but Jack doesn't get the best Timo because Timo is not going to be taking as many shots if he's there. Even if you've got Timo taking all of his shots then Jack isn't taking all of his. Putting the 2 of them together is limiting.

If Gritsyuk becomes a top 6 forward that will be fantastic. Will make the wait 100% worth it.

His KHL numbers are good , there really isn't any part of his game that screams "won't translate or work in the NHL". I wonder how his skating is....as long as it is average with his vision and shooting ability I could see him being a 60 to 70 point player.

He's a good skater. He's not Goose lol

 

[glenwo2]

Still can't believe they gave Nashville an A+ for their draft and the Devils only an A.

 

[Billdo]

Idc who goes where outside of these two duos:

Hughes/Bratt
Nico/Meier

 

[Hisch13r]

Idc who goes where outside of these two duos:

Hughes/Bratt
Nico/Meier

Agreed but I also think Mercer needs to be stapled into a top 6 role unless he just comes out and somehow has another disaster year

 

[DevilsHughes86]

I am on the Noesen first line train

Every year the NHL has that random winger playing with elite talent potting 30/40 goals out of nowhere

Maybe its Noesen

He can be given a 10 game trial or something like that. I know it's the AHL but he did score 48 goals 2 years ago, I mean he is definitely capable of putting the puck in the net

 

[DevilsHughes86]

Still can't believe they gave Nashville an A+ for their draft and the Devils only an A.

Nashville is like the flavor of the week, with their UFA signing and draft. Right now they can do no wrong!

Can't wait to see how it plays out for them

 

[devsfan8]

Hypothetically, if NJ were to somehow pull off a blockbuster trade for Brady Tkachuk, is there a way for this to happen while staying under the cap?

New Jersey Cap Space (4,976,103)

Brady Tkachuk (8,205,714)

Dawson Mercer + Jonas Siegenthaler ($3,400,000) + Seamus Casey

I don't think that is enough value and sort of craters our defense moving froward.

2 out of 3 out our 2nds and a 3rd would also have to be involved.

I think the next contract of interest is Hataaka. If he were to get a 1 way contract it means somebody might be on the move on a blue line that has 8 already signed Dmen.

Im not sure I am keen on moving him. Siegenthaler had one bad year. And Dougie had his best season as a Devil paired with Siegs. I think Jonas can bounce back.

 

[RNCDevil]

Any sites/sources with more rookie camp content?

 

[Devil X]

He can be given a 10 game trial or something like that. I know it's the AHL but he did score 48 goals 2 years ago, I mean he is definitely capable of putting the puck in the net

With how much Bratt and Jack move around, pass, and shoot a guy who goes to the front of the net like Noesen or Cotter could be very effective. A Clarkson type player but probably with better skill.

Id be interested to see both those guys given a shot up there.

I think/hope Tatar Nico Timo can be a killer line.

We will have to see how the rest works.

 

[Devil X]

Hypothetically, if NJ were to somehow pull off a blockbuster trade for Brady Tkachuk, is there a way for this to happen while staying under the cap?

New Jersey Cap Space (4,976,103)

Brady Tkachuk (8,205,714)

Dawson Mercer + Jonas Siegenthaler ($3,400,000) + Seamus Casey

I don't think that is enough value and sort of craters our defense moving froward.

This biggest issues with acquiring Brady is both the cap this year, making it fit. The other issue is the future contract and needing to dump players and being in a cap situation.

Yes of course the cap will rise, we can try and move out Palat next off season.

My guess is any big offensive addition would happen during the summer after we move some guys on deals out and have a better idea where the cap it. It is just to hard to pull off right now.

 

[Devils731]

With how much Bratt and Jack move around, pass, and shoot a guy who goes to the front of the net like Noesen or Cotter could be very effective. A Clarkson type player but probably with better skill.

Id be interested to see both those guys given a shot up there.

I think/hope Tatar Nico Timo can be a killer line.

We will have to see how the rest works.

If Bratt and Jack are together then I also think a meat and potato guy is the type of player to put with them.

Obviously the more talented the guy the better but Jack is his most effective, imo, when he’s thinking shoot first. He can get himself to high scoring areas by himself and then shoots well enough to score. When they put a shooter like Toffoli with Jack then Jack started to defer to Toffoli and tried to set the shooter up; I don’t think that’s the most effective version of Jack.

I think the majority of people still think of Jack as a playmaker but I think he’s at his best as a medium to high quality volume scorer. I don’t need him adding an extra step to a play to try and have someone else score when he can score on the current step.

For me, having a meat and potato guy that wins pucks to get Hughes more touches but doesn’t require the puck fed back to them may be the best synergy for the line.

 

[Devs3cups]

If Bratt and Jack are together then I also think a meat and potato guy is the type of player to put with them.

Obviously the more talented the guy the better but Jack is his most effective, imo, when he’s thinking shoot first. He can get himself to high scoring areas by himself and then shoots well enough to score. When they put a shooter like Toffoli with Jack then Jack started to defer to Toffoli and tried to set the shooter up; I don’t think that’s the most effective version of Jack.

I think the majority of people still think of Jack as a playmaker but I think he’s at his best as a medium to high quality volume scorer. I don’t need him adding an extra step to a play to try and have someone else score when he can score on the current step.

For me, having a meat and potato guy that wins pucks to get Hughes more touches but doesn’t require the puck fed back to them may be the best synergy for the line.

Noesen?

 

[Guadana]

Any sites/sources with more rookie camp content?

You want to watch how they are performing on the ice?

How about karts races?

 

[Satans Hockey]

I'm at the 3 v 3 development camp today. Nice to get a small Devils hockey fix in during the summer.

 

[Nico Hischier]

Devils have some healthy competition for a spot in the top 6 next to Jack. I think we will see all of palat, Noesen, and cotter get looks and I think they are all perfect complimentary players for him

 

[NJDevils17]

Just to note - If you want Brady Tkachuk you probably need to part with Simon Nemec. Not sure most are willing to make that trade.