Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - camp edition

[bossram]

This team has had more than their fair of shoulder injuries. Not specifically during training.

Luke
Jack x2
Timo
Nemec

Most shoulder injuries are attributed to lack of stability and mobility within the shoulder. The lack of focus on these issues likely leads to more shoulder issues in the future

This is me reading way too much into this...but my hypothesis is that a lot of sport-specific strength and conditioning programs, even at the professional level, are complete BS.

Lot of young guys with shoulder injuries. I think with young guys, there is way too much emphasis on "bulking up". You don't need huge upper body mass in hockey. You don't need bodybuilder boulder shoulders. If anything, gaining that mass too quickly is bad - worsens mobility and the strength/muscle grows faster than the ligaments and tendons, leading to injuries.

These guys should be focusing more on mobility and building functional capacity in awkward or end-range positions, rather than just "bulking up".

 

[Ripshot 43]

When does the video leak showing that the injury was actually from his NHL25 cover shoot?

 

[My3Sons]

I'm a little shocked how long it's taken me to get my shoulder to just adequate. And by adequate I mean pain free.

I'm old so it doesn't compare, but man, I've been at this for 4 months with bursitis, impingement and some bicep tendon and rotator cuff issues. The last month and a half doing therapy 4 times a week....and I'm not nearly 100% maybe 80?

Are you still able to participate in archery? It sounded like you were doing ok when posted that picture of your target.

 

[AfroThunder396]

On the positive side, new Erika just dropped:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834284506339258552

Shoutout to the Twitter gremlins who figured this out last week by stalking who Dano follows

 

[Nocashstyle]

One bright side: Dougie gets to fully establish himself as the PP 1 QB and hopefully hits the ground running after missing so much hockey last year.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I’m still confident in the D core if Dougie is back to near 100% and Nemec is fine by the start of the year. You’re not replacing a talent like Luke Hughes, though Seamus is a good contingency plan like Nemec was when Dougie went down.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Just curious what you would be doing training wise to blow ur shoulder out for 6-8 weeks

I’ve popped my shoulder out deadlifting before

 

[None Shall Pass]

Taking bets on how many times Dano calls her Erika in the first ten games they're together.

 

[Mgd31]

On the positive side, new Erika just dropped:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834284506339258552

Shoutout to the Twitter gremlins who figured this out last week by stalking who Dano follows

I'll allow this.

I’ve popped my shoulder out deadlifting before

brag much?

 

[TrufleShufle]

I have no worries about the success of the team with Luke out, especially with who will be added to start the season that we didn't have last year. But damn, was excited to see both Hughes boys come out of the gate firing. Plus coming back from injury after missing camp is never great. So I don't expect him to get to Dougieless mid season form from last year until later in the season.

 

[Bcap88]

You said training/off season issues though, most of those are in game situations

Lack of working on shoulder stability and functionality in the off season will lead to more shoulder injuries in season.

 

[Goptor]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1834215546335670310

There's a Koch's Deli here in Philly. Pretty good place. Not sure why they are bringing it with them to Buffalo.

 

[Devs3cups]

So most likely late october/early november.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I'm enjoying watching the date to when people think Luke will both be back and be playing good hockey slowly creep deeper and deeper into the season.

I'm hoping someone has a take that he won't be 100% until March by EOD

 

[Bcap88]

 

[My3Sons]

I'm enjoying watching the date to when people think Luke will both be back and be playing good hockey slowly creep deeper and deeper into the season.

I'm hoping someone has a take that he won't be 100% until March by EOD

So no later than the draft next season?

 

[Emperoreddy]

So no later than the draft next season?

Will he ever be an effective player again? Damaged goods

 

[Nocashstyle]

I'm enjoying watching the date to when people think Luke will both be back and be playing good hockey slowly creep deeper and deeper into the season.

I'm hoping someone has a take that he won't be 100% until March by EOD

The good news is they overshot the date with Jack on multiple occasions. I think they did for Timo too. Definitely by design to under-promise and over-deliver.

 

[Bcap88]

Kind of just stupidity tbh

You are a 1/2 weeks from training camp no need to ramp up the weights or taking contact to cause such a significant injury

 

[TheUnseenHand]

So no later than the draft next season?

If we're lucky. Next thing you know he's going to be listed as year to year...

 

[JimEIV]

Are you still able to participate in archery? It sounded like you were doing ok when posted that picture of your target.

Yes. I'm able to shoot now but I stop as soon as I feel any discomfort at all. Even a little twinge and I'm done.

I got up to 35 arrows pain free. And I have been hovering 20/30 before I notice anything. Usually feel a slight burn and fatigue around 20 or so shots. It's been this way since the last week of August. Sort of hit a little plateau in the progress but I do feel like things are getting better.

 

[TrufleShufle]

I'm enjoying watching the date to when people think Luke will both be back and be playing good hockey slowly creep deeper and deeper into the season.

I'm hoping someone has a take that he won't be 100% until March by EOD

Since I'm the only one that said anything about how well he will be playing and when, I'd imagine you meant me. But when I said later in the season I meant later than when he joins the team. Not later meaning trade deadline. Just not right away.

I reread it back a couple minutes after posting and thought "ahh this reads like something people will freak out for me saying that I'm not saying" didn't have a chance to edit before being right.

 

[My3Sons]

Yes. I'm able to shoot now but I stop as soon as I feel any discomfort at all. Even a little twinge and I'm done.

I got up to 35 arrows pain free. And I have been hovering 20/30 before I notice anything. Usually feel a slight burn and fatigue around 20 or so shots. It's been this way since the last week of August. Sort of hit a little plateau in the progress but I do feel like things are getting better.

Are you still under the care of a PT?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Keefe has done tremendous work with the Leafs in terms of their defensive structure, I have no questions he'll be fine. Our star forwards just can't get go cold in their early stretch and god forbid a top player on that side of the puck goes down.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

The good news is they overshot the date with Jack on multiple occasions. I think they did for Timo too. Definitely by design to under-promise and over-deliver.

I mean, in Jack’s case he was never actually healthy when he came back. And ended up needing surgery anyway.