GDT: Devils @ Panthers 7:30 PM EST (ESPN+, Hulu

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My3Sons

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For those who missed the game....

(Or just want to see this great tilt again)


OK, @Captain3rdLine there is a cellphone video on YouTube that has a better angle of the fight than the broadcast. They fall when Dillon tries to pull Gadjovich towards him and Gadjovich leans forward to punch Dillon at the same time. It's not the punch that connected and knocked Dillon down in my view. It was the timing of the pull and the leaning by Gadjovich. In any event, as others have noted, it's nice to see NJ players answer the bell.

As for the Tkachuk thing, you've made reference to the score keeping Tkachuk in check last night, but it was 3-1 and then 4-1 at the end of the game. We've seen Tkachuk try to "send a message" before in that situation (when he dragged Hischier around comes to mind). Last night nothing. Maybe it was just an off night for him or he's saving it for Thursday. But I think he's a fraud when he thinks he will have to answer the bell to a player who will willingly fight him and who is the same size or bigger than him. Again, just my thoughts. Others can see it differently.
 

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He also made a phenomenal play to intercept Tkachuk's pass that lead to Timo's goal to give us the lead back.

I'm so proud of Siegs after the trying year he had last year. He has been fantastic this season so far.
Last year was a hiccup. Siegs has been very solid defensively for most of his time with us. Value contract.
 

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That was in response to you saying “believe what you want” which isn’t exactly what I’d call civil discourse as a first response to my points. My response to that was entirely warranted whether you like it or not.
"Believe what you want" can also mean "you have your own viewpoint and I have mine".

I guess I could've said the latter instead but my point remains.
 
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glenwo2

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As for the Tkachuk thing, you've made reference to the score keeping Tkachuk in check last night, but it was 3-1 and then 4-1 at the end of the game. We've seen Tkachuk try to "send a message" before in that situation (when he dragged Hischier around comes to mind). Last night nothing. Maybe it was just an off night for him or he's saving it for Thursday. But I think he's a fraud when he thinks he will have to answer the bell to a player who will willingly fight him and who is the same size or bigger than him. Again, just my thoughts. Others can see it differently.
Yeah I mean...if Tkachuk starts something at the end of the game (provided the Devils are about to win), then Captain3rdLine's point is proven that the deterrent didn't work.

HOWEVER, if Tkachuk still stays in his lane (which I think he will do), then mr. Mac-PunchHisFace's presence IS a deterrent.
 
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General consensus among Panthers fans is that “the Devils will never get close to the Cup, they don't score the right type of goals, the refs missed half a dozen blatant calls against them" etc.

So we must have done something right, lmao
What a weird vibe in there lol. Why they are so mad and on the verge of tears? It’s a game in November.
 

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Yeah I mean...if Tkachuk starts something at the end of the game (provided the Devils are about to win), then Captain3rdLine's point is proven that the deterrent didn't work.

HOWEVER, if Tkachuk still stays in his lane (which I think he will do), then mr. Mac-PunchHisFace's presence IS a deterrent.
MacDermid has limited value but last night in the last few minutes of the game he was a deterrent. I'd love to see the league get rid of the need for a MacDermid type of player but until the league realizes it's the 21st century there will still be a few of those guys around. I just wish he'd be more assertive in his role. He really only fights the other team's true super heavyweight and he is so adverse to a penalty that he will let smaller players get away with borderline hits on NJ players where he should beat the snot out of the opponent.
 
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My3Sons

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That was a long day. I’m staying with my friend on the East Coast of the state, where I stayed during Milton last month. Only he’s actually home and went to the game with me.

That would be too much of a drive to head back home, then head back to Sunrise on Thursday.
Is DD staying with you guys or did he drive to Miami to be at the arena early?
 

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I haven’t seen it but they won the Cup 5 minutes ago and are 11-4-1.

Time to kick back and enjoy the high, all sports turns to pain soon enough.
My best guess from hearing one of their reporters on NHL radio the other day is that they're kind of in a "show you're for real" stretch against some tougher teams, and getting off on the wrong foot has them all upset people are gonna call them frauds or something.

Which is stupid, of course, they're defending champions and likely going to run away with the Atlantic, but forget it, Jake, it's Floridatown.
 

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Mercer looking like he had a really strong showing.

Something I still have noticed is there is cohesion among the players while the lines are in the midst of changing and plays don't die when a line has to come off. Last night, Mercer sprung Timo for his go-ahead goal and then Nico helped carry the play to dish it to Cotter for goal 3.

Again, it might just be nothing but I know Keefe talked about it during the Czechia trip about how Lazar's line did the work to get Nico his goal in the first game. I wonder if it's a point of emphasis. But it's something I've certainly noticed throughout the season so far.
 

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Mercer looking like he had a really strong showing.

Something I still have noticed is there is cohesion among the players while the lines are in the midst of changing and plays don't die when a line has to come off. Last night, Mercer sprung Timo for his go-ahead goal and then Nico helped carry the play to dish it to Cotter for goal 3.

Again, it might just be nothing but I know Keefe talked about it during the Czechia trip about how Lazar's line did the work to get Nico his goal in the first game. I wonder if it's a point of emphasis. But it's something I've certainly noticed throughout the season so far.

I like a lot of what I’ve seen from Mercer this season. Wish he had more of a shooters mentality at times but he’s clearly making a difference out there. Had to laugh when I saw someone saying we need to trade him last night during the game.
 

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MacDermid has limited value but last night in the last few minutes of the game he was a deterrent. I'd love to see the league get rid of the need for a MacDermid type of player but until the league realizes it's the 21st century there will still be a few of those guys around. I just wish he'd be more assertive in his role. He really only fights the other team's true super heavyweight and he is so adverse to a penalty that he will let smaller players get away with borderline hits on NJ players where he should beat the snot out of the opponent.
I agree MacDermid has value in this very specific situation: up multiple goals against a team that has an interest in "sending a message" for the next matchup. It's pretty much a staged fight opportunity.

Personally, I see the value that the Dillon type of fight had / has, but still think it should be eliminated from the game.

Dano's talked about watching a guy on your team get punched in the head for you and how that forces the team to raise their intensity level. Basically, "if Dillon's willing to do that, what am I doing?" I think that's a real thing. I even think that having MacDermid on the team has value today. It shows the other players how much physicality is valued. MacDermid is getting ice over higher skilled players because he does something management values. I think if you're Bastian or Mercer, that gets your attention. It tells you that the coach might give you ice time because you made the big hit or because you stood up for your teammates, and not just if you can make the fancy handle.

But, having said all that, fights are not ok. Knowing what we do about brain injuries, there's no excuse for allowing this stuff. There are other ways to show commitment to the team then getting beaten to a pulp (or trying to scramble someone else's brains, to mix food metaphors).
 
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