Proposal: Devils help Blues keep Pietrangelo AND Dunn
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TheImpatientPanther
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Don't both Steen and Bozak have NTC?
Not sure NJ is on their list but this does make some sense from both POVs
SteveCangialosi123
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I’d definitely make that trade for NJ. Good stopgap 3C, a guy who’d probably be fine on the 4th line, and a 1st for basically nothing? Sure.
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Those are some good vets for the Devils. Makes sense for both sides if you ask me.
SpeakingOfTheDevils
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We have much more use for Allen than Steen. I like the premise, though.
If we're able to sign Dillon and use one (or two?) of AZ/STL/VAN 1st for a good (or great?) young top-4 LHD, I'm totally down.
If we're able to sign Dillon and use one (or two?) of AZ/STL/VAN 1st for a good (or great?) young top-4 LHD, I'm totally down.
Em etah Eh
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Steen
Bozak
Allen
for Schneider
Steen and Bozak agree to trade only if flipped to another team not on their NTC list.
blues save 9 mil in cap next season while adding Schneider’s nast caphit for the following season, and deal with that in 2 years...
seems like an easy yes for NJ
Bozak
Allen
for Schneider
Steen and Bozak agree to trade only if flipped to another team not on their NTC list.
blues save 9 mil in cap next season while adding Schneider’s nast caphit for the following season, and deal with that in 2 years...
seems like an easy yes for NJ
Hally BlackWood
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So we take your over paid players 3 of them for 1 that we can just Bury. That’s a easy no. We want a pick or find another dance partner.
Em etah Eh
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The salary works out the same. You just have more cap to play with in year 2 and don’t have to worry about Schneider taking up a roster spot. Plus you could flip Bozak for probably a 2nd with money retained.
I doubt you’d get anything for Schneider.
I doubt you’d get anything for Schneider.
AfroThunder396
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Does this mean that MCLeod gets the shaft again. IMO the guy really hasn’t been given a true chance to prove himself compared to someone like Zacha.
I’m not saying the value isn’t there. But are we going to allow another prospect to rot in the minors when they’ve deserved a spot.
We’re not winning a cup.
I understand it’s a first. But do we go after this first that will be 23-31 while allowing another recent first to play in the minors continuing to kill his confidence.
If we do the trade don’t sign other players and have the young guys sitting in the press box all night. Let MCLeod, Anderson, Boqvist and Kuokkanen play.
I’m not saying the value isn’t there. But are we going to allow another prospect to rot in the minors when they’ve deserved a spot.
We’re not winning a cup.
I understand it’s a first. But do we go after this first that will be 23-31 while allowing another recent first to play in the minors continuing to kill his confidence.
If we do the trade don’t sign other players and have the young guys sitting in the press box all night. Let MCLeod, Anderson, Boqvist and Kuokkanen play.
Forge
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Mcleod hasn't exactly done himself any favors with his play to force the Devils' hand. Last year he was a sub .5 ppg player in the AHL. In over 100 games, he's barely a .5 ppg player. At best, he's a bottom six guy it looks like so far. Honestly, even if we didn't make this trade, why would he be in the NHL? I think Anderson, Kuokkanen and Merkley have all done more to get a crack at the big club. You could easily argue Seney and Bastian should get another shot before him.
I agree to an extent. I just really don’t think he was really given the opportunity. For god sakes they were Still sitting Jesper Bratt this year.
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goonybird
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Not exactly in a position to negotiate anything better
$2M to sign Pietrangelo and Dunn isn't exactly a winner
Lol your right because the vlues are screwed. Lol ltir thats all I got to say. Tarasenko will most likely miss 75 80% of season that frees up 6 mil. So not so tight. Also this is a good draft and the blues will get 23ova pick. So 1 year of bozak and steen for a potential top 6 or top 4 nhler.... nope. Please move along. Also though if nj would like Dunn I'm sure your first plus will work for us.
TheImpatientPanther
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That 23rd overall likely takes 3-4 years to develop, if they ever do.
Don't think this is as bad as you make it seem.
You guys have some good young prospects you can plug in their spots no?
Has there been confirmation on Tank being out for 75-80% of next year?
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If I am a devils fan and for my cap space I get a late 1 and 2 rentals on a team not going to the playoffs i wouldn't be jumping up and down.
TheImpatientPanther
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Having FOUR 1st rounders, they can package one or two of the lower ones for a NHL player from a cap strapped team and then hope one of Steen or Bozak produce a decent year with them, retain on one or both and move them for more assets at trade deadline next year.
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I feel Steen wants to retire a Blue, so I think he’d shoot this down and just retire after next year.
goonybird
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I think there could be a real hockey deal possible for Dunn. Probably* won't be the top-10 pick, though... again because STL isn't in a good bargaining position.
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Forge
Blissfully Mediocre
I don't mind that part of it. I mean, we have to spend some money, and securing 1st round picks and flipping rentals is at least something.
The problem for me here is that this doesn't provide great value. We are taking 10 million in space for a late first. If you use Marleau for the barometer, in a different economic situation, the cost was a first for what, 6 million? So this value kind of sucks from a buying draft picks stand point, though in a vacuum, I'm perfectly okay with buying prospects & picks and would strongly support that action given where we are at right now.
You may get more at the deadline for flipping them as rentals, but it won't be a ton more (likely mid round picks while retaining 50%). Their actual play holds no value to me as a Devils fan because as you said, we aren't going to the playoffs and what they do while in a Devils uni means absolutely nothing, so I can't factor that into the value equation.
Pass. If Blues were to deal either Bozak or Allen they would be receiving picks, not dealing them.
