Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - playoff edition

[SansaStark]

The only thing that would annoy me about a miracle revival is it would kick off a certain segment of the fanbase gloating that we're better without the Hugheses running things lol

There is merit to the fact that the game gets simplified in certain ways when they’re not on the ice. Which can lead to a little more straight forward attack.
But yea this current roster would be better with Jack and/or Luke. Even I can say that.

But they occasionally do play better without them, and I think it’s just a simplification of play style.

 

[My3Sons]

Nemec is using English quite nicely. But I believe they will give him a couple more lessons.

We are sending him to your place for thr rest of the summer for language lessons after he works with Bratt’s guy for the skating.

 

[Guadana]

We are sending him to your place for thr rest of the summer for language lessons after he works with Bratt’s guy for the skating.

A busy summer of different plans. I'll definitely teach him a few words, but that won't be understood in the interview. And that's for the best.

 

[My3Sons]

A busy summer of different plans. I'll definitely teach him a few words, but that won't be understood in the interview. And that's for the best.

There is no reason to ever use cloaca in a hockey interview

 

[edevils]

There is no reason to ever use cloaca in a hockey interview

I looked that word up and it is what I thought it was. Gross.

Thanks for that moment.

 

[My3Sons]

I looked that word up and it is what I thought it was. Gross.

Thanks for that moment.

It was used organically in our discussion thr other day.

 

[edevils]

It was used organically in our discussion thr other day.

Lol I missed a good one then.

 

[Guadana]

There is no reason to ever use cloaca in a hockey interview

We will go through the anatomy, all the workarounds and cultural peculiarities of different regions of North America. And divide the terms into two categories - acceptable for an interview and unacceptable.

 

[Guadana]

I looked that word up and it is what I thought it was. Gross.

Thanks for that moment.

You can google it in hfboards search. You missed good hockey conversation.

 

[My3Sons]

We will go through the anatomy, all the workarounds and cultural peculiarities of different regions of North America. And divide the terms into two categories - acceptable for an interview and unacceptable.

I’d start with piehole which is acceptable

 

[Guadana]

I’d start with piehole which is acceptable

Thats what she said.

 

[The Wumpus]

The only thing from this season I've replayed more than this goal was Rob Ray getting a puck to the head

 

[JK3]

No Luke or Dillon for game four. They’re not even skating.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Fitz patiently awaiting his apologies for the Dumoulin trade.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Dowling isnt a NHL regular but you can do far worse as a 5th center and he should remain in the organization

 

[Bleedred]

Who wants a hot take?

Is our defense playing defense better without Luke? Lol hmmm

Luke has likely been playing broken down for a really long time. I can't even remember the first time this season where he looked like he was for sure to leave a game, only to come back even before it ended. He did it again in game 1, but he was out for game 2. I wanna say that's happened 4 times this year.

He's probably been various forms of injured for a long time now.

I'm not sure if he was so hurt that he was hurting the team more by playing handicapped than not playing at all, but it felt like that at times.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Im hyped they won & the fact that it was Nemec who came up big is awesome to see but, we need to be realistic. If we dont win tomorrow then this series is basically over. We aren't really "back in this thing" till its tied up 2-2 & the Devils have the luxury of playing Game 6 at home to make it harder for the Canes to win in 6.

One of the 2 goalies might be due for a stinker game tomorrow. The Devils offense still hasn't popped off yet so hopefully they are due for a 4 plus goal game. Either way if they can grind a win in a low scoring then that is perfectly fine.

 

[Guttersniped]

Dumoulin has been solid, but he'll also be 34 by next season, and the Devils recent track record of signing 30+ year olds has been...questionable.

Dumoulin’s a year younger than Dillon.

We obviously don’t have the space for him but for me it’s just about how annoying the Dillon signing was.

 

[Bleedred]

You don't think him and Dillon have similar resume's?

Dillon got 4x3.

With the cap up now I don't think he comes in particularly cheap unless you give him term. On a 2 year deal I think the AAV is higher than you'd think

I would be very shocked if Dumoulin gets that much. I don't have his salary history up, but has he ever made that much in his career in a season? I don't think so, but I can't swear to it. I know he wasn't getting paid that on his current deal.

I don't see him getting a $1-$1.5 million per raise at age 34. I just don't.

And with Dillon, you know his physicality and hitting earned him some more dollars. Dumoulin just doesn't have that physical reputation.

 

[Bleedred]

Okay,. so about Nemec.

It would actually be nice if Nemec could be here next year, for cap reasons. He would be very cheap and if he can at least be the 6th defenseman then that would be great. I'm more than fine with trading him for something we can use right now, but I'm also fine with keeping him because he'll be cheap.

I think going really cheap on a #6 defenseman is a lot safer for us than going cheap on a backup goalie. If we could use those savings to bring back Allen or a goalie like him then that would be terrific.

After finally having a good goaltending year, Fitz would be stupid to go into next year with Markstrom/Daws. That reeks of Vanecek/Schmid 2.0 and Vanecek/Schmid wasn't even as easy to see coming as they were both good the year before. Daws only played 4 games to be good in, his AHL season sucked and he's not shown capable to be an NHL regular outside of 4 starts this year in the NHL.

So I'm much more comfortable with having a cheap defense contract like Nemec, which would hopefully allow us to better allocate money elsewhere. Like the backup goalie position and on forward.

 

[dgibb10]

I would be very shocked if Dumoulin gets that much. I don't have his salary history up, but has he ever made that much in his career in a season? I don't think so, but I can't swear to it. I know he wasn't getting paid that on his current deal.

I don't see him getting a $1-$1.5 million per raise at age 34. I just don't.

And with Dillon, you know his physicality and hitting earned him some more dollars. Dumoulin just doesn't have that physical reputation.

Dumo got a 4.1x6 deal after his ELC

 

[JK3]

I would be very shocked if Dumoulin gets that much. I don't have his salary history up, but has he ever made that much in his career in a season? I don't think so, but I can't swear to it. I know he wasn't getting paid that on his current deal.

I don't see him getting a $1-$1.5 million per raise at age 34. I just don't.

And with Dillon, you know his physicality and hitting earned him some more dollars. Dumoulin just doesn't have that physical reputation.

 

[Bleedred]

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So he was just over $4 million, but never $4.5 million. I really can't see that happening for the first time in his career at age 34.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Honestly now im back into thinking you need to try and move Dougie.

Yeah its only two games for Nemec, but its a big two games. I think it became a lot harder to justify trading him unless something huge is coming back

 

[Emperoreddy]

I will say one big difference between this year and the game 3 two years ago is that game was a lot easier for Carolina to just burn the tape and move on from it. Was a laugher "not their day" type of game.

This one was an emotionally devastating lose. A lot harder to put it behind you as a player.

We get on the fast tomorrow they might start to really doubt.