Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part VI

[Clam Jensen]

Onto a different topic at least, Dillon speaking fondly of Jersey and Westfield in particular. He's an awesome guy. I know I already shared that I got to take my son to his signing at Sports Minded Unlimited earlier this year, and the way that he treated him was beyond top notch. Say what we will about his overall game and how his contract might age, he'll always have a fan in me and my boy.

I wonder if he moved into Hynes’ old house in Westfield

 

[Nocashstyle]

Onto a different topic at least, Dillon speaking fondly of Jersey and Westfield in particular. He's an awesome guy. I know I already shared that I got to take my son to his signing at Sports Minded Unlimited earlier this year, and the way that he treated him was beyond top notch. Say what we will about his overall game and how his contract might age, he'll always have a fan in me and my boy.

I like the suburb guys better and hearing which towns they live in. I’m tired of the young bucks and all their Hoboken/JC nonsense. I can’t relate to that anymore haha

 

[Edmonton East]

Regarding Gritsyuk: I think he's living off his hype from several years ago to a degree with some folks. Obviously great for a 5th round pick and that's reason enough to be excited for him, but his incredible outperformance was years ago at this point and he's kinda plateaued since. SKA is typically one of the highest scoring/offensive teams in the KHL as well.

Difficult to predict how he transitions to NHL game. Did utilization/complacency cap his development the last 2 years and the move will revitalize his development? Totally possible....but as of now, I view him as a 3rd liner. Basically penciling him into the top 6 is a bit too rosey for my liking (seemed much more likely a few years back).

 

[thebeernerd]

I like the suburb guys better and hearing which towns they live in. I’m tired of the young bucks and all their Hoboken/JC nonsense. I can’t relate to that anymore haha

It's good that the kids have their own stomping grounds, though.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Regarding Gritsyuk: I think he's living off his hype from several years ago to a degree with some folks. Obviously great for a 5th round pick and that's reason enough to be excited for him, but his incredible outperformance was years ago at this point and he's kinda plateaued since. SKA is typically one of the highest scoring/offensive teams in the KHL as well.

Difficult to predict how he transitions to NHL game. Did utilization/complacency cap his development the last 2 years and the move will revitalize his development? Totally possible....but as of now, I view him as a 3rd liner. Basically penciling him into the top 6 is a bit too rosey for my liking (seemed much more likely a few years back).

uh, what....?

2022-23: 0.61 points/game
2023-24: 0.76 points/game
2024-25: 0.90 points/game

seems like pretty steady progression to me?

 

[guitarguyvic]

I’ll take a young third liner, thank you very much.

 

[Nocashstyle]

It's good that the kids have their own stomping grounds, though.

For sure, I just envy them

 

[MB3]

The time is now. Putting this on my tv. I haven’t watched one single replay of this game since it happened.



Maybe the demons will be exercised soon.

My third year with season tickets but the first team that felt like they had “it”, all year. Defense, depth, scoring, goaltending.

This is one of the single worst sports moments of my life. My seats were in section 230 and from there you could look up and see the tv’s that the press box could see (on standard TV delay), so I was looking up at the replays of the goal and trying to show my dad how close we were to getting the puck out when I heard the crowd gasp/groan at the game winner.

Have never watched a replay of that game and will never watch a replay of that game.

 

[Guttersniped]

I'm 100% positive that Sutter was the guy Lou wanted after Robinson resigned in 2006. We know he went to Red Deer to talk to him, but Sutter didn't want to come yet. So he hired Julien instead, and then mysteriously fires him at the end of the season. Why? Because the whole time he was working on Sutter, trying to convince him to come to NJ. As soon as Sutter agreed there was no reason to keep Julien. Julien was a placeholder the whole time.

From a Chere June 9th 2009 article:



And by “family matters” actually meant his brother was the GM of the Calgary Flames and had just fired his previous HC lol


@Bleedred

After resigning as New Jersey Devils coach, Brent Sutter says 'I'm not a quitter'

Made 'personal and family decision,' Lemaire, MacLean might be next in line

www.nj.com

 

[Better Call Sal]

From a Chere June 9th 2009 article:

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And by “family matters” actually meant his brother was the GM of the Calgary Flames and had just fired his previous HC lol

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@Bleedred
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After resigning as New Jersey Devils coach, Brent Sutter says 'I'm not a quitter'

Made 'personal and family decision,' Lemaire, MacLean might be next in line

www.nj.com

God, what a bullshit artist. Johnny Mac was the worst coach I've seen in my lifetime, but Sutter will always hold the distinction of my complete disdain.

 

[MadDevil]

We just won 3 in a row for the second time in 2025 and people are reliving the horror of 2009? Y'all need to seek help.

 

[Clam Jensen]

We just won 3 in a row for the second time in 2025 and people are reliving the horror of 2009? Y'all need to seek help.

We’re just trauma bonding before the playoffs.

 

[Nocashstyle]

We just won 3 in a row for the second time in 2025 and people are reliving the horror of 2009? Y'all need to seek help.

We don’t let the vibes get too high around here.

You know damn well the team could win the Cup and there would still be posters in the post game thread saying “yeah but they got really lucky. They won three games in OT and the Deserve to Win Meter shows they actually shouldn’t have even won the second round series.”

 

[NjDevsRR]

This is a much needed and POSITIVE exercise for this group. Nothing negative here

 

[Bleedred]

Just finished it. My Thoughts:

Jesus Christ Marty…that first goal was trash and foreshadowed the GWG. @Bleedred signal

Canes second goal, lucky af.

And then of course, the dagger. Literally the first time I purposely watched that Staal goal since it happened.



Hopefully this exercise helps with reversing the Hurricane curse lmao

The Ruutu goal (was he the scorer who made it 1-0 early?) and Staal goals were both bad. Both between the blocker arm and body, if I’m not mistaken. Unfortunately, those were the only two goals even close to stoppable that I felt he gave up the entire series.

He gave up a goal identical to those (probably closer to the Staal one) to Magnus Arvidsson early in the 1st period in game 7 of the 03 ECF against the Sens. Bill Clement got on him for that one.

And Bill Clement mentioned it once again after the game that he bounced back after a bad goal and you’re not supposed to win when you give up bad goals.

Anyway, goalies aside, I think I started to really hate Pandolfo and White after that game. I hadn’t liked Pandolfo for a couple years even before that. He had been probably bad since 06-07.

Colin White wasn’t bad that season, but that was probably his last good season. He was done after that.

Havelid was an awful acquisition at the deadline that year.

That was the last game as a Devil for both Gionta and Madden. I was a little sadder to see Gio go. Madden was probably an okay player, but wasn’t gonna be worth his next contract, which I think was only a one year deal with the Hawks, but worth $2.5 or $3 million per, which was a lot of cap money in 2009-2010.

It was a $2.75 million one year deal to be exact. Yeah, 36 year old at $2.75 for a $57 million cap for the team we had at the time. He got one more cup with the Hawks that year.

 

[Triumph]

The Devils have a lot of great playoff moments but they don't have anything like the Canes in 2009 that I can recall - honestly, coming back from 2-0 down against the Rangers in 2023 is up there. The 3-1 comeback against the Flyers was impressive, but I never felt like the Flyers outplayed the Devils in that series - they didn't get blown out in any of the games.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Honestly the only reason Game 3 vs Florida 2012 isn't the worst playoff memory I have is solely because of the Carolina loss. That game was a thermonuclear disaster.

After we completely outplayed Florida in Games 1 + 2 but had the series tied, to come back and lay an egg on home ice was EMBARASSING. Anton Volchenkov may have had the single worst individual game performance of any player in Devils playoff history. I thought for sure Marty was cooked after that game (and he kinda was tbh, other than a few moments in the NYR series).

 

[longislanddevil]

I know the chances are slim but I’m rooting for Nico to hit 40 goals and Bratt to reach 100 points.

Hischier- needs 5 goals in 5 games (I still maintain that if he didn’t miss the 6 games due to injury, he’d hit that mark)

Bratt- needs 12 points in 5 games which amounts to 2.4 PPG

The schedule is kind as we play out the string….

 

[NJDevs26]

What an absolute moron. Nothing grinds my gears like a coach who gets paid millions to pull a galaxy brain move like this that any average HF poster would know better than to do for free. People say it’s more about the players than the coach but this is a prime example of how coaching can in fact be the difference between winning and losing a playoff series.

Then he went and f***ed right off back to his farm. I mean I'm glad he did but what a little puke.

At least until he went to Calgary like two weeks later lol, him and his brother can both **** off

 

[NJDevs26]

God. The ending of that pissed me off. I can still hear my one friend making fun of Chico for his “It’s a bump a Marty party.” Then Marty responded with an absolute masterclass in Game 5.

That’s another thing that annoyed me…Marty rarely just put a team on his back the way Roy or Hasek did in the playoffs but he did in Game 5 after his indignance over the Game 4 ending, but he couldn’t sustain it beyond that one game and in the end was a key reason for the loss.

 

[JrFischer54]

The time is now. Putting this on my tv. I haven’t watched one single replay of this game since it happened.



Maybe the demons will be exercised soon.

i was at this game and i haven't watched any clips since i got home that night and rewatched it (until just now). white just a horrible job of stepping up at the redline you have madden and pando out there like yuck damn relics of the glory days 2001-03. then marty gives up the super softie playoff special

 

[edevils]

We’re just trauma bonding before the playoffs.

'Tis the strongest type of bonding heterosexual men can do.

 

[NJDevs26]

This is a much needed and POSITIVE exercise for this group. Nothing negative here

Mainly positive in the sense our collective disdain for Carolina is one of the few things that unites us all.

 

[JrFischer54]

That’s another thing that annoyed me…Marty rarely just put a team on his back the way Roy or Hasek did in the playoffs but he did in Game 5 after his indignance over the Game 4 ending, but he couldn’t sustain it beyond that one game and in the end was a key reason for the loss.

i'm going to correct you HE NEVER put a team on his back and steal a series. i've always said would rather dom or roy in a must win stand your goalie must stand on your head to win type game game 6 2001 comes to mind what an absolute dud from him what was it 4 goals on like 14 shots?

 

[JrFischer54]

We’re just trauma bonding before the playoffs.

we have to heal old wounds to take the next step