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you guys are hung up on some clowns from 2018, man
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In the meantime, feel free to join our Discord ServerI dunno.Number one, you’re definitely not winning a trade of any one of those three guys. Certainly nothing that maintains/improves your chances of winning in the near term. Futures mean nothing, and if they did and the goal was another total rebuild, you may as well trade all three.
Second, we’re nowhere near that point yet. Even if they shit the bed next season I don’t know id we’re there. There are a lot of steps roster management wise in between here and there.
Yeah what’s wrong with clowns from 2013?
Yes let's trade Nico the one constant on this teamI dunno.
Nico + Nemec for Byfield + Fiala?
Byfield is turning it on this year, so probably Kings say no to this. Also, not sure how much value Nemec would have for them though since they already have Clarke. But, if they truly have soured on Fiala and they want to win now, maybe Blake pulls the trigger on this?
Talking about Vat's and the 17-18 season got me thinking about what Rico is doing this season, and it looks like he finally fell off the cliff.
9-9-18 in 69 gp's.
24-27-51 in 82 last season.
I love your research and determination.Which shows that the first 24 games doesn't make a season. He had one goal after Dec 1st. Gibbons hot start was small piece in that seasons puzzle. It's why I left him out of my OP.
Well I think he was allowing the young guys to grow into roles, unfortuneately it didn't happen. He wasn't in "win now" mode, but he certainly thought the team was in the opening stages of a window.
Hall was a high end player prior to 17-18. So him falling off was the fluke. Kink had something like a career .910 save% following the 17-18 season, he was .891 in 18-19 and was basically never an NHL player after that. That fall off was the fluke. Vats fall off was the fluke. 3 very important pieces in 17-18 had odd ball career drop offs. These guys were all in their 20's.
The injuries/regression of Nico,Bratt,Wood and Butcher aren't that odd individually but all 4 having that drop off was certainly not something the board was predicting in the 18-19 preseason. I bet the board consensus was those guys were going to build off those seasons. The likes of Zacha, Queneville, Anderson, McLeod were all going to develop into contributors.
Yes let's trade Nico the one constant on this team![]()
1. Someone said the Devils couldn't win a trade of Nico, Bratt, or Jack. I was responding to that idea.
2. Nico is a sub PPG center who takes on a lot of the defensive match ups. He does well with this, but not he's not great at it (Barkov is great). If you could trade him for someone you think could be great, it could work out.
The proposals suck but they're about as likely to happen as MacDermid winning the Conn Smythe.I really hate the proposals involving Nico and Jack or Bratt. That has to be a tougher read than any badmouthing of Gerry Ford Fitzgerald.
If we had a general manager who made the right decisions and who has been given plenty of time, these wouldn’t even be a though.
I hate the thought of trading those guys too.I really hate the proposals involving Nico and Jack or Bratt. That has to be a tougher read than any badmouthing of Gerry Ford Fitzgerald.
If we had a general manager who made the right decisions and who has been given plenty of time, these wouldn’t even be a though.
literally what?
some of you guys will just say anything
Glad it’s a scratch for good reasons.Rumor is, Cody and his wife are expecting a baby
I thought Keefe said something about being evaluated or looked at? He definitely said maybe he’ll be available later in the trip.Rumor is, Cody and his wife are expecting a baby
We are not the Sabres or Sharks, we are 3rd in the division and almost certainly making the playoffs. We're 2nd in the East in goals against, 5th in goal differential, and 6th in wins. 4th in the league in PP%, 4th in the league in PK%.I hate the thought of trading those guys too.
But, some of my favorite players were:
Aaron Broten
Kirk Muler
Pat Verbeek
Randy McKay
Petr Sykora
The days some of those trades were announced were amongst my lowest feeling as a fan. But, I can't argue with the Cups that came (post Broten and Muller took some time, granted).
It's the old "you have to give to get". And, if the decision was that the team needs a culture change, you're not getting that by swapping out Brendon Dillon or Erik Haula.
Nico has 30 goals and leads the team whatever are you talking about1. Someone said the Devils couldn't win a trade of Nico, Bratt, or Jack. I was responding to that idea.
2. Nico is a sub PPG center who takes on a lot of the defensive match ups. He does well with this, but not he's not great at it (Barkov is great). If you could trade him for someone you think could be great, it could work
Looks like less toi across the board. Wonder what the monthly splits look like.Probably much different usage in Edmonton than he was getting in Anaheim.
2024-25: 14:17 per game - 12:01 EV - 0:37 PP - 1:40 SH
2023-24: 17:35 per game - 12:41 EV - 2:21 PP - 2:34 SH
2022-23: 18:11 per game - 13:08 EV - 2:33 PP - 2:29 SH
I haven't watched a ton of Edmonton this year, but just seems like he's being tasked to be a defensive minded center now.
A good reporter would ask if she pooped during delivery when he returns.Rumor is, Cody and his wife are expecting a baby
Oh I like this team more then that team.I love your research and determination.
I think board consensus was that flukey season was a fluke.
Hall dragged an inspired but mediocre team into the playoffs.
Vatanen was the definition of high-risk mid reward defender from the second he arrived... not someone to be counted on. I liked Kincaid but no one thought he was ever a #1 goalie.
Sure we were optimistic bc of Nico, Bratt, Wood and Zacha, but I didn't think we were at all anything more than cautiously optimistic we would squeak into the playoffs the next year.
Honestly, despite all the angst, we are a much stronger team top to bottom on paper than we've been since 2012... Although our Dcorps with Sevs as a bottom pairing luxury was better for that one year.
I loved Randy McKay also but he was done when we traded him... I was more broken up about Arnott going with him to Dallas.I hate the thought of trading those guys too.
But, some of my favorite players were:
Aaron Broten
Kirk Muler
Pat Verbeek
Randy McKay
Petr Sykora
The days some of those trades were announced were amongst my lowest feeling as a fan. But, I can't argue with the Cups that came (post Broten and Muller took some time, granted).
It's the old "you have to give to get". And, if the decision was that the team needs a culture change, you're not getting that by swapping out Brendon Dillon or Erik Haula.
Dont the Devils (and Metro) want the Canadiens and Atlantic teams to keep winning? This way the Rangers place top-13 in the draft and lose next year's unprotected 1stWe are Blues and Kings fans tonight. Would be nice for Rags and Habs to get no points. We also need Canucks to win tomorrow.
OOT has been the Devils best player. We need it to continue.