billingtons ghost
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I think he's skating more and playing much better. His involvement in the play has really taken off.
Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V
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Mercer has been his same old invisible self that refuses to go to the middle of the ice IMO
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The Allen situation for the future is definitely more interesting now. I do wonder if there is a desire to bring Allen back and possibly flip Daws to give him an opportunity elsewhere. I just don't know if that's the decision we want to make. Goaltending is so unpredictable every season.
If you do that, you have Poulter and Brennan in the AHL theoretically. Then eventually, Yegorov is your goalie of the future prospect. I could see them moving Daws the way they moved Schmid if they really want Allen back.
One thing is for sure, the guy has stepped up in a massive way. Low key team MVP, especially for 2025. Guy has a .928 SV% and a 2.07 GAA in the calendar year and is 7-7.Goals for Jake was a legitimate concern for a while. Still is, I suppose.
Devils can use Casey as their 7th D and play him in AHL. So it will help to use Daws as 3rd NHL goalie. And call Casey up when we need him.
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The Allen situation for the future is definitely more interesting now. I do wonder if there is a desire to bring Allen back and possibly flip Daws to give him an opportunity elsewhere. I just don't know if that's the decision we want to make. Goaltending is so unpredictable every season.
If you do that, you have Poulter and Brennan in the AHL theoretically. Then eventually, Yegorov is your goalie of the future prospect. I could see them moving Daws the way they moved Schmid if they really want Allen back.
One thing is for sure, the guy has stepped up in a massive way. Low key team MVP, especially for 2025. Guy has a .928 SV% and a 2.07 GAA in the calendar year and is 7-7.
You're forgetting Malek too.
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You're right, and I don't know if you saw the same, but happened to see this tweet earlier today too.
I suppose it wouldn't be shocking to see us consider moving on from Daws. I don't know if it's fair to expect him to be the 3rd goalie again next year, but it's equally as risky to go in with two 35 year old goalies. Between this and the situation on the right defensive side, it will be another interesting offseason.
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The Jack Hughes talk is a little crazy. I don't think teams trading their best player works out to often.much less one of the best players. But for the sake of fun and pissing off the tribe of folks who just say no to everything...
It's happened. Lindros got the NordiAvs multiple cups. Gretzky brought pieces that helped Messier win another cup. Karlsson to Sharks rebuilt the Ottawa team you see now.
You need a partner to dance and that means a team with reasonable potential but can't get over the hump and has a core player or two that need to move. Buffalo seems to be the place to pillage ( Eichel, Bennett etc) but I don't see a Tage + power or something like that happening in real life.
I think it's probably a far better idea to have Jack learn how to play dynamically but predictably with his teammates, and have them know what to do instead of just stand by and watch him dance around when he goes on prolonged skates.
There's definitely a savior complex psych issue here too where they seem to wait around for him to just bail their asses out.
It's happened. Lindros got the NordiAvs multiple cups. Gretzky brought pieces that helped Messier win another cup. Karlsson to Sharks rebuilt the Ottawa team you see now.
You need a partner to dance and that means a team with reasonable potential but can't get over the hump and has a core player or two that need to move. Buffalo seems to be the place to pillage ( Eichel, Bennett etc) but I don't see a Tage + power or something like that happening in real life.
I think it's probably a far better idea to have Jack learn how to play dynamically but predictably with his teammates, and have them know what to do instead of just stand by and watch him dance around when he goes on prolonged skates.
There's definitely a savior complex psych issue here too where they seem to wait around for him to just bail their asses out.
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Well Gretzky and Karlsson were both several years older than Jack. Jack turns 24 in November. I think Gretzky was 27 and Karlsson was 28 when the Sens sent him away.
Lindros didn't wanna be drafted by Quebec. It's been debated for years why he refused. I think he came out and said he didn't wanna play for those owners, but that it was nothing personal to the city of Quebec or the team. Honestly, that was such a rollercoaster that I can't even remember if Lindros did at one point claim he didn't wanna be there and then tried to walk it back and said it was the owners many years later. He addressed it fairly recently (like in the last several years) as I remember coming across something with him talking about it when I was bored and scouring youtube for hockey content during the offseason.
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Like and respect it. After what happened to Adam Johnson, the sooner it happens to lessen the chances of anything like that from ever occurring again, the better.
Ballpark NHL duos and free agents as we head into the summer:
We'll see if Gibson/Demko end up being on the trade block and if some guys get bought (Grubauer). San Jose seems like the only team that definitely needs a starting goalie (to keep the crease warm for Askarov long term). Daws might be in the same boat as guys like Devin Cooley and Erik Portillo who have 1 way contracts for 2025-26, but the team might prefer a more proven option at backup.
Most teams will have their duos set by early July, so I can't imagine many teams waiting to claim somebody like Daws on waivers unless an injury happened. Allen turns 35 after July 1, so he could sign a multiyear deal without the 35+ rule coming into play. With a young family, I could understand if he'd want a 2-3 year contract for some stability.
We'll see if Gibson/Demko end up being on the trade block and if some guys get bought (Grubauer). San Jose seems like the only team that definitely needs a starting goalie (to keep the crease warm for Askarov long term). Daws might be in the same boat as guys like Devin Cooley and Erik Portillo who have 1 way contracts for 2025-26, but the team might prefer a more proven option at backup.
Most teams will have their duos set by early July, so I can't imagine many teams waiting to claim somebody like Daws on waivers unless an injury happened. Allen turns 35 after July 1, so he could sign a multiyear deal without the 35+ rule coming into play. With a young family, I could understand if he'd want a 2-3 year contract for some stability.
The Allen situation for the future is definitely more interesting now. I do wonder if there is a desire to bring Allen back and possibly flip Daws to give him an opportunity elsewhere. I just don't know if that's the decision we want to make. Goaltending is so unpredictable every season.
If you do that, you have Poulter and Brennan in the AHL theoretically. Then eventually, Yegorov is your goalie of the future prospect. I could see them moving Daws the way they moved Schmid if they really want Allen back.
One thing is for sure, the guy has stepped up in a massive way. Low key team MVP, especially for 2025. Guy has a .928 SV% and a 2.07 GAA in the calendar year and is 7-7.
Poulter is a UFA. Brennan sucks.
First, they would absolutely have to spend money to retain Poulter.
Second, they have to be certain that Malek is signed and comes over. They also have to be sure he is happy to play in the AHL.
Poulter and Malek would have to be the AHL tandem.
Third, now you can take the chance on Daws backing up Marky with whomever is hot in the AHL moving up in any emergency.
Yegorov has to prove the rest of this season and then all of next season that he is for real. Then you have to be sure he is willing to come out at 20-yrs old. I believe he would still have to open up in the AHL.
Your problem is that NJ should be battling to make noise in the playoffs in '26/27 and Marky would be gone. Who is #1 in NJ? Daws? Poulter? Malek? Yegorov right out of college at 20?
There is going to be a short gap (hopefully short) in pure NHL goalie strength with the loss of Marky and Allen. Believing that Daws is the man is a big gamble. Challenging for a playoff run without an established keeper is a tough call. It's been done, but not all that often. Rookies have been ruined trying to carry that load way too soon.
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Trade jack
Piss off luke
No shot at Quinn
Profit ?
Piss off luke
No shot at Quinn
Profit ?
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it's a bold strategy, cotton
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Hopefully things keep going badly in Vancouver. The organization (not saying the fans) deserves it for running their team so poorly and ownership meddling.
Bad owners, always hire the wrong people in management and coaching.
Jim Rutherford shouldn't be doing this anymore.
And what do you know? The Tocchet victory lap last year was very premature. Tocchet team is gonna Tocchet. Even THG has been super critical of his system and he's as pro-coach as an actual member of the paid media. He defended Montgomery when he was fired by Boston. He's constantly taken shots at Tocchet's system and how it's not good for offense and also talked about how it wasn't in Arizona either. Vancouver is his favorite team, but Boston is his second favorite team.
The Sens fans better hope they don't have the Travis Green market correction next year like the Canucks are having the Rick Tocchet market correction this year.
Bad owners, always hire the wrong people in management and coaching.
Jim Rutherford shouldn't be doing this anymore.
And what do you know? The Tocchet victory lap last year was very premature. Tocchet team is gonna Tocchet. Even THG has been super critical of his system and he's as pro-coach as an actual member of the paid media. He defended Montgomery when he was fired by Boston. He's constantly taken shots at Tocchet's system and how it's not good for offense and also talked about how it wasn't in Arizona either. Vancouver is his favorite team, but Boston is his second favorite team.
The Sens fans better hope they don't have the Travis Green market correction next year like the Canucks are having the Rick Tocchet market correction this year.
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Malek is already signed through 2025-2026 - he is on loan to his Liiga team. I can't imagine he doesn't come over next season.
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I’m fully on board with moving Mercer for an upgrade, especially if they can’t figure out a spot for Palat and are unwilling to buy him out. He's taking more shots from the outside, I guess, but that's the only growth we've seen, year over year.
Seen enough, package him with Nemec. Get someone who can deliver.
Seen enough, package him with Nemec. Get someone who can deliver.
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Ya rerun, and this particular rerun was way after the fact.
When I was young in the late 70's/early 80's I remember my cousins watching the show. My uncle was a big beatles fan and I guess he thought the Monkee's a kid's version of the Beatles, but I didn't much like it then.
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The Allen situation for the future is definitely more interesting now. I do wonder if there is a desire to bring Allen back and possibly flip Daws to give him an opportunity elsewhere. I just don't know if that's the decision we want to make. Goaltending is so unpredictable every season.
If you do that, you have Poulter and Brennan in the AHL theoretically. Then eventually, Yegorov is your goalie of the future prospect. I could see them moving Daws the way they moved Schmid if they really want Allen back.
One thing is for sure, the guy has stepped up in a massive way. Low key team MVP, especially for 2025. Guy has a .928 SV% and a 2.07 GAA in the calendar year and is 7-7.
ya but 15 of those 17 goals saved above expected occurred in the 3rd period last night.
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A little misleading in that they were drastically undermanned at center for a couple games until they traded for Glass. They are 4-1 since they brought in Glass, and are even stevens 5v5 in terms of goals in those 5. Which isn't bad considering they've played with a lead for a majority of that time. Especially since, much like they have all season, they've played the role of punching bag while protecting 3rd period leads.
Which isn't to say we are better off without Jack, and his ability to push the puck would help alleviate the pressure while protecting these leads, but I don't think we can look at the full 7 games without Jack to see how the team currently constructed is playing, and these 5 games are better then then flat numbers indicate.
Interestingly Bratt's stepping up since Jack went down does have me wondering a little if the Jack Bratt tandem is something that needs to be set in stone. And we did see this a couple years ago when Bratt Mercer Johnsson were red hot for a stretch, so we know Bratt can be highly productive away from Jack, and we know he can elevate linemates. But to @Captain3rdLine's op on this little discussion Jack hasn't really shown an ability to elevate team mates. Palat maybe a little, but Bratt was on that line too.
Moral of my story here is, Glass has been a big help, and I do wonder about lines going fwd.
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I think they offer Allen two years and if he's unwilling then it goes to Daws being the backup with Poulter and Malek in Utica. I do however think if they sign Allen then Daws is likely gone.
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