Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V

I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm kind of looking to explain myself. I posted about it before a couple weeks back, but I'm going through some kind of weird depression where I'm just whatever about everything. I'm not real sad, but I'm more just apathetic right now. I've been saying recently it's maybe the male version of menopause, I don't know.

So I know I've been super insufferable at times on this board lately, but I have absolutely LITTLE patience for what's been happening in Devils land since about December 28th. So I'm probably really going off the rocker more than I normally would. That's all. There's really nothing I can really do right now. I'll snap out of whatever moods I'm going through, but I just hope this team doesn't completely fall out this season.

However, I don't think I was exaggerating or hyperbolizing when I said Markstrom's game yesterday was a bottom 5 (or top 5 BAD) goalie game for the Devils this decade.

Yeah, the October of 2019 Cory Schneider game was worse, but that was pre-this decade.
My friend, I’m sorry for your current feeling. I’m an older folk and here’s how I approach life (with a touch of lexapro as well). When I’m having a shitty day/period, I think back to the bad times in my life (getting shot at, losing both of my parents 9 months apart and other bad periods) and I say to myself “I survived those things, so I can handle anything.” Conversely, when I’m having a great day, I remember the great times of my life.

The one major thing I took from ma dukes, is when I thought I had it rough as a kid she would say “David, there are kids right now in CHOP hospital in Philly battling cancer—is your day really that bad?” Mom never even graduated high school, but damn did she give some great advice.

You’ll get through this pal, just remember our three cups…when I was a 16 year old introverted kid who had undiagnosed severe depression because of my parent’s divorce, these devils kept my head in a good place…that’s why I’m such a big fan and so emotionally attached to this team and all of you assholes.
 
We were in yesterday's game until that penalty by Pesce killed our chances to tie it up, we still had momentum up to that point and then it went to shit. The final score makes our effort look worse than it was.
Except the game really was only close for like five minutes after the first period when it got from 4-1 to 4-3
 
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Most of the goalies who were here last year aren't anymore. The Devils got 49 starts in 2023-24 out of goalies who are no longer on the roster or in the system. Schmid is a backup goalie in Vegas's farm system, Vanecek was awful for San Jose and was then traded to Florida for nothing, and Kahkonen has been bouncing around the league on waivers and has started exactly one NHL game this year. I'm skeptical that any of these guys start the year on an NHL roster next season, so I'm not sure this is the conclusion you really want to make - yes obviously Daws has been lights out this season but he's played 5 games and he has not been anything special in the AHL.

Obviously there can 'team in front of them' issues and last year's team was certainly not good defensively, but these guys can't hack it here and it turns out they couldn't hack it anywhere, for the time being. It can be both things.



Markstrom's bad performances are almost certainly injury related, before that injury he was headed towards possibly being Sweden's starter in the 4 Nations and a top 10 goalie around the league. Obviously injury risk is part of acquiring any goalie and more so with an older player, but I can't get behind the idea that we overpaid for Markstrom - a good portion of that payment was for Calgary to retain salary on him.

it’s definitely injury related, that’s for sure. and markstrom was having a great year before that but my point is largely that a good team will elevate “good” goalies into top 10 level. he’s definitely good, and has some great games for sure. and yes daws is the only one who put up great numbers but you kind of proved my point - the ahl team is shit but somehow in the harder league he looked better.

just looking at goalies who’ve won the cup like keumper/francouz or hill, and now seeing thompson in washington and i just think our current system could have propped up another goalie that didn’t require us trading a first round pick and comes with the same injury risk. i get why fitz did it, and he probably had to, but in think it was an over correction.
 
it’s definitely injury related, that’s for sure. and markstrom was having a great year before that but my point is largely that a good team will elevate “good” goalies into top 10 level. he’s definitely good, and has some great games for sure. and yes daws is the only one who put up great numbers but you kind of proved my point - the ahl team is shit but somehow in the harder league he looked better.

just looking at goalies who’ve won the cup like keumper/francouz or hill, and now seeing thompson in washington and i just think our current system could have propped up another goalie that didn’t require us trading a first round pick and comes with the same injury risk. i get why fitz did it, and he probably had to, but in think it was an over correction.
Thompson was in our system too a while back
 
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it’s definitely injury related, that’s for sure. and markstrom was having a great year before that but my point is largely that a good team will elevate “good” goalies into top 10 level. he’s definitely good, and has some great games for sure. and yes daws is the only one who put up great numbers but you kind of proved my point - the ahl team is shit but somehow in the harder league he looked better.

Again I don't really think 5 games is representative of anything. The modern shutout streak is held by Brian Boucher who pitched 5+ consecutive shutouts - Boucher was a below-average goalie, playing for a team that would finish 4th worst in the league, and 5th worst in goals against.

The AHL team has been fine since the coaching change. Daws stabilzing a bit is certainly part of that, but he still sits 41st out of 50 in SV%. He was at .853 after the first month of the season, a .904 since, but that's still not dominating or anything.

just looking at goalies who’ve won the cup like keumper/francouz or hill, and now seeing thompson in washington and i just think our current system could have propped up another goalie that didn’t require us trading a first round pick and comes with the same injury risk. i get why fitz did it, and he probably had to, but in think it was an over correction.

Kuemper cost a 1st round pick + a conditional 3rd and a young defenseman to acquire. The Devils paid pretty much the same exact price.
 
let's fist the greater ohio area tonight
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From The Athletic's NHL Owner Rankings.


Methodology:

We’ve compiled your answers in four key ownership categories — willingness to spend, organizational stability, treatment of the fan base and franchise vision — into a “Fan Score” and combined that with our own ranking that factors in objective things such as team performance in the regular season and playoffs (over the past decade) as well as ownership’s general reputation and influence, according to our reporting.

The end result is our first-ever NHL ownership rankings. Keep in mind that this ranking is an amalgam of 50 percent fan perception of their teams’ owners and 50 percent of our own accounting for owner performance, and in some cases, those factors don’t align with one another. (In some markets, fans don’t love their owner even though the franchise is successful on the ice, for example.)


Devils ranked 13th overall, which seems about right.

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