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Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part V
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What's the point of that? Is Caspar Bratt someone we should pay attention to?
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Brady Tkachuk gotta be the most overrated player in NHL history
SteveCangialosi123
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No. That is truly the dumbest account on Devils twitter.
His production and archetype (and now age) is comparable to Timo when we acquired him.
Dw tho he fought someone at the 4 nations to distract from the fact that he's on pace for 67 points this year
JrFischer54
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absolutely would love to have allen back. face it markstrom isn't a sure thing to make it through a full season so do you really trust daws to take over full time in that situation?
Better Call Sal
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Stiff competition on that front.
The GM overpaid for Dumo who was up for half the year for trade yet no one bit on Pat V's ask only Fitz...As I have said don't mind the player but overpayment is overpayment for a rental....When you have drafted Defenseman as much as the Devils you could have dealt from a prospect strength not weakness as a fwd..
Better Call Sal
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I don't think Dumoulin was up for trade for half the year, I imagine Anaheim brought him in this summer by trade to hope he was a part of their solution. Since it looks like another year of missing the playoffs for them, they sold a pending UFA. Pretty common practice.
It was quite clearly a seller's market. Having three 2nd round picks in a supposedly weaker draft class (and two of those belonging to 2 teams that are near the top of the standings), I'm sure Fitz was more willing to part with one just to get the player he wanted. And we don't know the other specifics behind the prospect moved. Anaheim might have wanted a forward prospect in return. I'm not familiar with their pipeline, but maybe that makes the difference in us landing Dumoulin vs. someone else.
Either way, this trade probably doesn't even happen if we don't lose Siegs for the season the way we did. That's the unfortunate reality. But I like Dumoulin as a player and am happy to have him in this final stretch.
That's fine I have said multiple times I like Doom but not at that price for a rental that's my opinion...Giving up a fwd prospect when u don't have them in abundance especially a guy just drafted showing well makes you scratch your head....I could of sworn Doom was up since December in rumor mills...Agree if Siegs is here no trade but maybe if they gave Misyul more of a shot he could have stepped up...
Really great post, as usual.
If you're asking my opinion, I don't see Vancouver trading Quinn Hughes this off-season because he's far-and-away their best player and it would be tantamount to throwing in the towel and going into a full re-build. I think this is a team who will use the 2025 off-season to try and retool for a run next year.
Unfortunately for the Canucks, whatever is going on with star forward Elias Peterson (far be it from me to speculate) but he's a shell of his former self, and his compete level all season long could almost be called an absolute embarrassment. I haven't seen a star NHL-er in his prime "mail it in" the way he has in quite some time. The combination of this and Thatcher Demko's constant cavalcade of injuries has really throttled the team in the standings.
So what is Vancouver management to do? Their net minder is a constant question, their star center is in a fog, and their most dangerous scoring winger (Brock Boeser) is set to enter unrestricted free agency. It's a complex equation, especially right now when the top thing keeping them in playoff contention is the stunningly exceptional play of Quinn Hughes. As such, I see them stopping at absolutely nothing to keep him in the fold.
I'm off Twitter now, but if I recall what it was like on there correctly you may have just given the hugest superlative in the history of the English language.
Alex NJD
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1. Just did it by PPG as long as they had a decent clip of games played. (So for example didn't count Seguin as top 6 for his 20 games in Dallas)
2. All goals. Regardless how the goals are scored they still need goals. There are guys like Noesen or Olofsson who are PP specialists who may be 3rd liners but generate a lot of PP points but I didn't want to spend time sifting through every teams lineups and such
3. Definitely different, like I said the top ten teams in the league are all top 11 in scoring, but those are the levels the team needs to aspire to attain to be a true contender
Wgaf?? We overpaid to address an immediate need in a playoff race. In a sellers market.
It is called being aggressive. And I do not trust Casey or Nemec down the stretch. Seems Keefe does not either. If the team was out of a playoff race or a healthy roster that is one thing. But Nemec vs a 33 year old 2 time cup winner who is still effective on a good team in a playoff spot? I'd do it every time. Just my opninon. We traded a 2nd and a prospect that might never play in the league to tighten our defense for the playoff stretch. Big deal.
Sometimes you have to overpay. It is not like the Devils are exactly short on assets still.
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You assume Keefe will want to stay with Amrkstrom since he is the presumptive starter but I would have played Allen tonight
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I'll say it again, Luke's extension is gonna hit so hard. Can't wait for that to be announced. Wouldn't be surprised if it happened soon.
Mgd31
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Allen did shut out Edmonton on the road back in November so maybe. But I bet Markstrom gets Thursday and Allen Saturday
He has looked like 40 skated around for two goals 2 games in a row ....Read the posts I continue to say I like Doom but don't sell him as a guy going to carry us to a cup and ignore the fact that you overpaid...It's ok to admit it stop selling him like the next great dman that's not what he is....My point is trade from a prospect strength...Tons of assets not really we are not as deep as we were that can't continue...
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Brady, at 25 years old, is 3 goals away from 4 straight 30 goal seasons. Timo has three 30 goal seasons in his career.
And maybe the Four Nations is not representative of every game life in the NHL but Brady, against the highest level of competition, was a physical goal scoring beast. As noticeable a player as anyone in that tournament. Saying "he fought someone" as you do, suggests you may not have watched the tournament.
I also don't see them as very similar in terms of style. I mean, yeah big strong goal scoring wingers, but I feel Timo is more a guy who pushes the puck up ice and gets a large portion of his chances on the rush while Brady is more in zone, and in general much more physical.
Ya, Doomer looks pretty bad, but neither Casey nor Nemec are playing that left handed defensive heavy role.
Now Casey in for Cholowski is 100% something I would try as it's a righty spot and one you can shelter and even throw PP minutes to, Cholowski getting PP minutes is pretty ridiculous. But as you say Keefe has not shown trust in Casey at all.
We probably overpaid for Doom's, especially as he has not looked good thus far, but we did need to add a player of that ilk.
Mgd31
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Dumolin has been very good with Kovacevic, yea he got notably burned twice and they both ended up in the net. You like a save on one of those. He has a 70% xGF. He has been a fine Siegenthaler replacement, which we desperately needed.
