Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part IV

[longislanddevil]

If Fitzgerald were to trade BOTH Nemec and Casey (would be shocked), he deserves to be fired STAT.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Claim Vrana, on waivers from Washington this afternoon, if he gets that far without someone else picking him up.

 

[Incharge1976]

Meh, Jack playing with a banged up shoulder isn't good news. He played through it last year and looked like a shell of himself. Teams will also target that shoulder in the playoffs to make him less effective or fully knock him out for good. Just get the proper care now and be ready for 25-26. This team isn't going to do anything with or without him this year

 

[MB3]

If Fitzgerald were to trade BOTH Nemec and Casey (would be shocked), he deserves to be fired STAT.

what is this alluding to?

 

[Pwned]

The problem is that we SHOULD be as much WIN NOW as Tampa. We SHOULD be. The guy running the team went on a PR tour the last two offseasons saying it's now about competing and not just making the playoffs.

But after what's transpired in the last 9 weeks or so and then the Jack (and Dougie) thing this week, we really can't consider this a win now year.

Tampa Bay is in win now mode because Hedman is 34 and Kucherov is 31 with no contract in two years

The Devils wont be in win now mode until at least the turn of the decade. By then Jack would only be 28 years old

 

[longislanddevil]

what is this alluding to?

Scratch that. I meant to reply to a previous poster but I went back and misread the comment. My bad. Didn’t mean to invoke any fear in us lol

 

[Forge]

 

[None Shall Pass]

The problem is that we SHOULD be as much WIN NOW as Tampa. We SHOULD be. The guy running the team went on a PR tour the last two offseasons saying it's now about competing and not just making the playoffs.

But after what's transpired in the last 9 weeks or so and then the Jack (and Dougie) thing this week, we really can't consider this a win now year.

No we SHOULD not.

1. Every GM says their team is here to compete. It's PR speak, it sells tickets to casual fans, who cares. None of them are like "yeah idk maybe we'll make the playoffs, some these guys suck, dunno what to tell you."

2. Tampa absolutely dominated the league for years, including winning multiple cups, before they started these crazy spending sprees. We have not.

3. Tampa's core was far more mature than ours when they started on this trajectory. Jack is 23. Luke is in the throes of puberty. Compare that to the ages of Tampa's stars when they started making waves.

 

[Eggtimers]

There’s not many names out there that are good enough to make any sort of push in the playoffs IMO . Nelson , Boeser , McCann and …….. maybe if Cozens , Tuch is available . But all those are going to cost a metric asston and the first two are just rentals . Hopefully there is someone worth while getting that hasn’t been rumoured . I have zero faith in Fitz anymore .

It’s been said that we will be buyers regardless . Unless we are getting someone like Rantanen or McCann , I say be sellers .

 

[jkrdevil]

The team has nothing to sell.

 

[Better Call Sal]

I think Tampa paid a premium, but they can afford to do so. Their window is much smaller than most teams when you factor in the age of their core players.

 

[Devils Trap]

The team has nothing to sell.

Jake Allen, Kovacevic, Id listen to calls on Mercer.

Maybe someone needs the veteran leadership of Palat / Haula LMAO.

 

[Call Me Al]

does tampa have another 1st they’ll give up for palat???

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

If someone wants to give us a 2nd for Allen, sure. But I’d be using that pick to buy something else. Beyond that, I don’t see what we have to sell.

 

[Mgd31]

Sell what?

 

[Dialamo]

does tampa have another 1st they’ll give up for palat???

I'll take a Big Mac voucher at this point for Palat.

 

[Whaddagoal]

Man just read the allegations ..

It can't be real that we have yet another major dickhead on the team after all that happened last year......?

There isn't a lot of choices outside of M and Bastian...

 

[longislanddevil]

It’s an impossible situation to be in. We all know there is no hope without Jack unless something MAJOR happens. It will be significant overpayment. Regardless of how we feel about the team’s realistic chances, punting the season is not a great message to send to that room (only care about the core players) when you’re sitting 9 games over .500 and in a playoff spot. It pains me to say this but the “right” move may be, for the most part, staying pat. Maybe you add a few pieces with term to if there’s reasonable cost somehow (doubt there will be) or make a hockey trade involving Mercer. Fitzgerald got us in this mess by overestimating the offensive capability of this forward group. I’m so close to just being done with him.

 

[Forge]

The team has nothing to sell.

Kovacevic.

Also, wouldn't surprise me one bit if a guy like Lazar was tradable. Cheap depth and guys like him get moved at the deadline all the time.

 

[longislanddevil]

Man just read the allegations ..

It can't be real that we have yet another major dickhead on the team after all that happened last year......?

There isn't a lot of choices outside of M and Bastian...

The “super friends” are apparently both “super dirtbags.”

 

[Killing Joke]

With all the negatives you
mentioned, why would any GM, trade for Nemec?

Because gms are stupid. He has draft pedigree.

 

[Saint Beaurivage]

A lousy GM unable to fabricate a trade due to lack of networking skills will always deplete your future stock to save their hide.

 

[Killing Joke]

It’s an impossible situation to be in. We all know there is no hope without Jack unless something MAJOR happens. It will be significant overpayment. Regardless of how we feel about the team’s realistic chances, punting the season is not a great message to send to that room (only care about the core players) when you’re sitting 9 games over .500 and in a playoff spot. It pains me to say this but the “right” move may be, for the most part, staying pat. Maybe you add a few pieces with term to if there’s reasonable cost somehow (doubt there will be) or make a hockey trade involving Mercer. Fitzgerald got us in this mess by overestimating the offensive capability of this forward group. I’m so close to just being done with him.

The trademarked devils move of standing still and doing nothing. The decade old proverb from a fanbase that has overvalued picks and prospects since 2012.

 

[Darkauron]

Yeah I am down with trading Allen or whoever if Jack is out rest of the season.

 

[NJersey]

rangers report knows more than our own, LOL . joke