Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part III

[BostonDevil]

Last year Siegs sentiments in here: I'm done with him!
This year Siegs sentiments in here: We're done without him!

 

[britdevil]

Last year Siegs sentiments in here: I'm done with him!
This year Siegs sentiments in here: We're done without him!

My sweet summer child, it has always been this way.

 

[Devils731]

Last year Siegs sentiments in here: I'm done with him!
This year Siegs sentiments in here: We're done without him!

You measure thoe sentiment changes in years? I measure it by shifts.

 

[Bleedred]

I don’t think there currently is another D on the roster since Hatakka wasn’t taken off of IR apparently. So Nemec or anyone called up was going to play anyway?

 

[JK3]

I just saw Hatakka is supposed to go down to Utica during the 4 Nations garbage for conditioning, Nemec will go too I would imagine. Nemec might only get a few games here unless we play really well with someone on the off side.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I don’t think there currently is another D on the roster since Hatakka wasn’t taken off of IR apparently. So Nemec or anyone called up was going to play anyway?

ever heard of Kurtis MacDermid?!?!?!

 

[Bleedred]

ever heard of Kurtis MacDermid?!?!?!

He’s listed as a defenseman in past years, but I don’t think he’s played a game there for us.

I definitely wouldn’t write him playing D for us off, but thankfully it looks we won’t have to find out tonight.

 

[Devs3cups]

Awesome news.

 

[New Jerseys Devil]

Im probably out of the loop but why not LTIR Siegenthaler and accrue cap space instead of IR Nico?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Im probably out of the loop but why not LTIR Siegenthaler and accrue cap space instead of IR Nico?

LTIR and IR are not the same thing. You do not accrue cap space with regular IR.

LTIR isn't really an option for the Devils anyways because of Luke's potential ELC bonuses.

 

[New Jerseys Devil]

LTIR and IR are not the same thing. You do not accrue cap space with regular IR.

LTIR isn't really an option for the Devils anyways because of Luke's potential ELC bonuses.

I know thats why I asked why we didnt LTIR instead of IR! But, even with the lack of savings from Luke's ELC, were going to leave Siegenthaler out with a roster spot until the playoffs? Doesnt this leave us without a backup defenseman?

 

[JrFischer54]

Any way to get that article without having to pay??

You mentioned the nba play in season previous thread couldn’t respond. Saying nhl won’t be doing that? Even though they kinda are about to with the 4 nation

 

[Whaddagoal]

Awesome news.

Nico pain meter dropping from an 8 to a 5..

 

[NjDevsRR]

Season ticket holders are able to get their jerseys today.

I picked Nemec for my jersey over the summer

It was meant to be

 

[Cheddabombs]

Season ticket holders are able to get their jerseys today.

I picked Nemec for my jersey over the summer

It was meant to be

OH MY! Anything can happen in Jersey!

 

[Devils731]

I know thats why I asked why we didnt LTIR instead of IR! But, even with the lack of savings from Luke's ELC, were going to leave Siegenthaler out with a roster spot until the playoffs? Doesnt this leave us without a backup defenseman?

LTIR and IR both don’t allow you to accumulate any additional cap space; all they can do is be neutral or shrink your cap space.

IR doesn’t affect the cap but allows you to call up an additional player for the roster.

LTIR allows you to add an additional rostered player and can allow you to exceed the upper limits of the cap to add the player.

In most cases, you only want to use LTIR if you’re already close to the cap max and you need to go over the cap limit to complete your roster.

 

[NjDevsRR]

OH MY! Anything can happen in Jersey!

 

[New Jerseys Devil]

LTIR and IR both don’t allow you to accumulate any additional cap space; all they can do is be neutral or shrink your cap space.

IR doesn’t affect the cap but allows you to call up an additional player for the roster.

LTIR allows you to add an additional rostered player and can allow you to exceed the upper limits of the cap to add the player.

In most cases, you only want to use LTIR if you’re already close to the cap max and you need to go over the cap limit to complete your roster.

Okay thats fair enough! So we dont accrue space we simply have it from Siegenthaler's cap being allowed as an overage. Makes sense.

But why not still LTIR a player we wont see until April most likely? According to what I read here saying 2-3 months; doesnt this prevent us from having space to callup another dman after another injury?

 

[Devils731]

Okay thats fair enough! So we dont accrue space we simply have it from Siegenthaler's cap being allowed as an overage. Makes sense.

But why not still LTIR a player we wont see until April most likely? According to what I read here saying 2-3 months; doesnt this prevent us from having space to callup another dman barring injury?

The actual mechanical nature of LTIR overages get complicated so someone else probably can explain better than I.

From my understanding, the amount of overage you get it based on your cap level at time of LTIR.

For example, if the cap is at 80 and we have 2 teams, one at 76 and another at 80, both of whom are going to LTIR a guy making 5.

The 76 team could go 1 over to 81 in their relief and the team at 80 can go to 85.

If you plan to be closer to the cap in the future, then you want to delay LTIR to maximize how much overage you’re allowed.

This is also all calculated on a daily basis so this is grossly simplified and I’m no cap expert; so I may be missing the boat

 

[Bone Density]