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the Championship game is 2/20 and then the Devils have a game on 2/22. I would imagine they would practice on 2/21, but the NHL teams themselves I believe are totally off for those 2 weeks.
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the Championship game is 2/20 and then the Devils have a game on 2/22. I would imagine they would practice on 2/21, but the NHL teams themselves I believe are totally off for those 2 weeks.
NJDevs26
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How long do they get the young talent excuse? Nico, Jack, Bratt, Timo, Dougie and the goalies have all been in the league several years or more. I swear some of you are still going to be calling this a young team in five years just based on Silayev or Lenni being the the lineup…the core are vets now.
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I hear you, but Nico is replaceable. Same with Markstrom.
Both are important pieces, but if you got consistently solid play out of those spots (vs the solid and occasionally spectacular we're getting), I don't think it changes things that much. Especially if we took that money and upgraded elsewhere (e.g., downgrade 2C, upgrade 3C).
I don't think that's true for Jack. Downgrading 1C and upgrading 2C makes this team worse.
Personally, I still think this team is on Jack and Luke's timeline. I hope Fitz sees that. We don't win the cup unless those guys lead us there.
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Timo, Dougie, etc. don't really matter. Not in the big picture. Same with Markstrom. They are important - I'm not saying we can win without their contributions. I'm saying that their contributions are complimentary to Jack, Luke (and maybe Bratt).
We keep joking that Haula stirs the drink. It's Jack and Luke.
Every player is replaceable. That term needs much deeper explanation for it to not be doing a lot of heavy lifting for you in a summary and ill defined manner.
Devils731
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Is this a ship of Theseus philosophical discussion?
If every part of Nico has been changed due to his injuries, have we not replaced Nico with the sum of these new parts? If it stills “Loves to Hockey” then I think it’s still original Nico.
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No, I'm not serious.
Dunno if Fitz will be making any deals, but I feel like there will definitely be some across the league. seems like a natural "mini-deadline"
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Nico is replaceable? Holy f***ing shit, I can't believe what I'm reading. This is a player coaches dream of, incredible two way player, plays PP, PK, extremely responsible, plays in every situation, leads the team in goals, total beast in the dot, tremendous leader, Selke candidate all on a great deal. He's the lynchpin to the entire team.
I'd rather lose Jack AND Timo at the same time than lose Nico.
I'd rather lose Jack AND Timo at the same time than lose Nico.
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Devils731
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I think you’ll see the moves coming out the break.
The GMs will be bored and start chatting amongst themselves and from there, trade offers will be made. Teams will wait to see about injuries from the tournament and pull the trigger over the next couple of days.
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Your take is too simplistic.
We can be a team that plays terrible defense for periods at a time and give up 2-on-0s and breakaways. The whole advanced stats world misses the mark on catastrophic breakdowns bc Timo being unable to lift a puck and score still makes him a darling of xGf
We can play the games in a row giving up less than twelve shots and then give up 40.
The inconsistency this team displays makes it hard to say whether they are really 'good'... Because they are great much of the time and terrible the rest of the time.
So my point stands: both can be true and you just standing on what you think is high ground ,condescendingly pointing at advanced stats and our rankings from money puck is just another classic case of why stats are just tools to help interpret and not 'factual reality' as some here claim.
The therapy sessions are now over lmao
SteveCangialosi123
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It isn’t hard to say, they are good defensively. You keep clinging to a crusade against advanced stats, which I haven’t even posted. Eye test, they’re good. They don’t give up many goals and play a pretty boring style. Argue with a wall.
Zajacs Bowl Cut
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so basically the only way to be a "good defensive team" is to give up 20 shots every single game, without fail and never give up odd man rushes?
The point is EVERY NHL TEAM has these things happen to them. It is not a Devils-centric thing. So, is every NHL team not consistent?
If you cannot see how this team is MILES ahead of last year's team structurally and defensively, then I cant help you man.
Jets and Caps have the best goals against averages in the league and yet I see their goalies standing on their head on insane high danger chances when I watch their games. Does that mean they stink defensively and are one of the few teams that are inconsistent? No, it means that every team does allow dangerous chances during a game.
Its hockey folks. Many ebbs and flows happen every season. Averages do show you the grand scheme of things.
Its hockey folks. Many ebbs and flows happen every season. Averages do show you the grand scheme of things.
I think Fitz will make trade when he feels its right. I'm inclined to believe that he already knows exactly who he wants. Several factors involved though.
The first caprelefant trade last year he made was March 1st..MacDermid.
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Or this is their final form and they’re just actually not that good. But no no…that can’t be. Our players are always going to get better, linear growth blah blah.
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I wonder if it will be like how they would do back in years where they had the Olympics.
Like the players and teams are completely off for 10 days or something like that, then they go back to practice for several days, just without the players who are involved in the tournament?
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Definitely makes sense to think that the 23 year old superstar and the 21 year old potential superstar are in their "final form"
Bratt and Nico are already good enough. They are ppg players. It is the depth that is letting us down overall so far this year.
