Toggle sidebar

Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - part II

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
My3Sons said:
hey, nobody says that icing 18 sociopaths who purposely injure the best players on the other team leaving no ability to retaliate because the whole roster is disposable sociopaths is a real strategy. Nobody has advocated for that previously.
Click to expand...
Yeah nobody here has ever advocated for that. And why would they? It’d be a crazy thing to repeatedly advocate for in a variety of threads across this board, even as just one more entry in a users hypothetical portfolio of long running marginally funny bits that he or she does mostly to pass the twilight before their ever more quickly approaching dotage.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Its Always Sundstrom, The Wumpus and Clam Jensen
My3Sons said:
hey, nobody says that icing 18 sociopaths who purposely injure the best players on the other team leaving no ability to retaliate because the whole roster is disposable sociopaths is a real strategy. Nobody has advocated for that previously.
Click to expand...
I'm sorry, I forgot to cite you on my little diatribe. I know you're being facetious but then again maybe not... I kind of agree haha.
 
  • Like
Reactions: My3Sons
My3Sons said:
I have yet to hear a cogent explanation of why it wouldn't work beyond not enough really big and violent sociopaths being available.
Click to expand...

How would you find those players anyway like you said? Skill is still needed to win NHL games, people misconstrue Tom Wilson and Brad Marchand regularly as goons when they're elite hockey players especially Tom Wilson. If you're advocating for 18 Matt Rempe esque players then that team is gonna be a lottery/dogshit team yearly.
 
The shutout thing is just strange. Don't care too much about the retaliation stuff.

Also, are we really paying Meier that much to be a 60 pt forward? I expect him to heat up at some point, maybe it's even better if he does it in the backhalf of the year. But between him, Palat and Mercer, that's a lot of cap inefficiency.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mgd31, Dialamo and longislanddevil
Oneiro said:
The shutout thing is just strange. Don't care too much about the retaliation stuff.

Also, are we really paying Meier that much to be a 60 pt forward? I expect him to heat up at some point, maybe it's even better if he does it in the backhalf of the year. But between him, Palat and Mercer, that's a lot of cap inefficiency.
Click to expand...
If you can find me an 18 minute a night forward available for under 4 mill, let me know.

If it makes you feel better you can Swap Timo and Noesens PP points in your mind.

Gurglesons said:
Hello. It's your favorite John Marino hater.

What would Jersey fans opinion be of a Bunting at 50% for Mercer trade?
Click to expand...
Not in a million years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gurglesons
Oneiro said:
The shutout thing is just strange. Don't care too much about the retaliation stuff.

Also, are we really paying Meier that much to be a 60 pt forward? I expect him to heat up at some point, maybe it's even better if he does it in the backhalf of the year. But between him, Palat and Mercer, that's a lot of cap inefficiency.
Click to expand...
Meier not being on the powerplay hurts his points a bit; I think he ends up there someday. And the shutouts are definitely weird!
 
Oneiro said:
The shutout thing is just strange. Don't care too much about the retaliation stuff.

Also, are we really paying Meier that much to be a 60 pt forward? I expect him to heat up at some point, maybe it's even better if he does it in the backhalf of the year. But between him, Palat and Mercer, that's a lot of cap inefficiency.
Click to expand...
Interestingly Meier's overall point production at 5v5 is pretty good. 7 goals, 7 assists for 14 points on the season which is good for 3rd amongst NJ fwds.

But in the last 15 games he only has 2 goals, 3 assists for 5 points, even though his shot rate, scoring chances, hd chances have all been significantly better then his first 15.

If he keeps playing like he has the points, and especially the goals will start piling up.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Its Always Sundstrom, Devs3cups, Guttersniped and 1 other person
New Jerseys Devil said:
You might be right :confused:. Idk, maybe he replaces Noesen at some point if he cools off? Just a few games as a tryout?
Click to expand...
Why?

Who cares who the points come from.

The only reason to do something like that would be to

a) stroke egos
b) try to artificially keep a pending free agent's price down
c) try to artificially inflate a guy you're trying to sell's value
 
dgibb10 said:
Why?

Who cares who the points come from.

The only reason to do something like that would be to

a) stroke egos
b) try to artificially keep a pending free agent's price down
c) try to artificially inflate a guy you're trying to sell's value
Click to expand...
I thought that if he was scoring more on the PP then maybe thatd raise his confidence and hed do better off of it too. But we are good with what we have, Im just a big Timo fan is all lol

If it wasnt for the faceoffs like @Zajacs Bowl Cut reminded me once, Id try him in place of Nico so he can be well rested for more important minutes!

But im just being greedy with what I want to see lol. I hope it happens someday though and works out!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Its Always Sundstrom and Guttersniped
Gurglesons said:
Hello. It's your favorite John Marino hater.

What would Jersey fans opinion be of a Bunting at 50% for Mercer trade?
Click to expand...
1733964979242.gif
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: dzubrus8, Its Always Sundstrom, DerekDevils30 and 15 others
My3Sons said:
hey, nobody says that icing 18 sociopaths who purposely injure the best players on the other team leaving no ability to retaliate because the whole roster is disposable sociopaths is a real strategy. Nobody has advocated for that previously.
Click to expand...

MasterofGrond said:
Yeah nobody here has ever advocated for that. And why would they? It’d be a crazy thing to repeatedly advocate for in a variety of threads across this board, even as just one more entry in a users hypothetical portfolio of long running marginally funny bits that he or she does mostly to pass the twilight before their ever more quickly approaching dotage.
Click to expand...

Uh, @MasterofGrond , you’re responding to that very advocate.

I made a line-up just for him, though I sprinkled the psychopaths in the our traditional line-up to make it more feasible.

EAFFDA49-63B9-4589-85E8-B7D8CC46DF9A.jpeg
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: Its Always Sundstrom, Paul Westerberg, Bleedred and 5 others
devilsblood said:
Interestingly Meier's overall point production at 5v5 is pretty good. 7 goals, 7 assists for 14 points on the season which is good for 3rd amongst NJ fwds.

But in the last 15 games he only has 2 goals, 3 assists for 5 points, even though his shot rate, scoring chances, hd chances have all been significantly better then his first 15.

If he keeps playing like he has the points, and especially the goals will start piling up.
Click to expand...

Meier was visibly frustrated last night, he smashed his stick against the bench at one point.

Really wanted him to bury one.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Its Always Sundstrom, Better Call Sal, devilsblood and 1 other person
Claude Giroux

Jake Evans

those would be my main deadline targets.

Although tbh I'd target Evans (or some other 4C) now. Get ahead of it like wash did
 
ZachaFlockaFlame said:
How would you find those players anyway like you said? Skill is still needed to win NHL games, people misconstrue Tom Wilson and Brad Marchand regularly as goons when they're elite hockey players especially Tom Wilson. If you're advocating for 18 Matt Rempe esque players then that team is gonna be a lottery/dogshit team yearly.
Click to expand...
If the best players on the other team are in the morgue who will win? The team with players that are alive.
 
Guttersniped said:
Uh, @MasterofGrond , you’re responding to that very advocate.

I made a line-up just for him, though I sprinkled the psychopaths in the our traditional line-up to make it more feasible.

View attachment 943813
Click to expand...
To be fair thr sociopath thing isn’t a gag so much as an ongoing protest against the stupidity of NHL officiating and supplemental discipline
 
  • Like
Reactions: forceten, Paul Westerberg and Guttersniped
dgibb10 said:
Although tbh I'd target Evans (or some other 4C) now. Get ahead of it like wash did
Click to expand...

Sounded like Dubas did Eller a solid and sent him to a preferred location (while opening up a roster spot to take a flyer on Tomasino). Not sure Montreal has the same incentive/motivation to do a trade in advance of the deadline barring an overpayment.

Usually the reason you don't see more trades early is that teams will have insane asking prices. Ie, Anaheim was asking for a 1st+prospect for Rickard Rakell but then had to settle for a 2nd+prospect. It wasn't a rental, but Washington apparently was asking for a 1st for Nic Dowd last deadline.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dzubrus8 and Guttersniped
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom