Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason edition

[dgibb10]

Would be funny irony since Smith is on Dallas right now lol

I want to start developing Luke into a viable PK dman if the plan is to bring Quinn in eventually

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

The discounts Benn+Duchene would take are the biggest question marks. I mean clearly the front office of dallas has an idea of how to make it all work or they wouldn't have locked themselves into 20+ mill on Wyatt and Rantanen already, but tough to know from the outside looking in

I think Granlund Ceci were pure rentals.

Also, I think putting Dougie with ANY of Heiskanen, Lindell, or Harley is gonna see him dominate.

Adding Rantanen helped their PP as well, it was pretty brutal before they brought him in.

They might want to also push Miro away from having to be insane minute eater, have Harley + Dougie (for example eat the PP mins) and then have Lindell and Miro play PK solely outside of 5v5. Their right side has also been hilariously bad for good the rest of the roster is.

 

[Guadana]

Dillon decision is so f***ing tough for me man. On the one hand, he is putrid BUTT 5v5. On the other hand, our PK got sent to mars without him in the Carolina series and their powerplay was dog shit the whole regular season. If you can find a good penalty dman somehow who can minute munch there then yeah lol

Dumolin, Siegs, Kovy, Pesce, Nemec, Luke. Its not that great from PK standpoint of view but we can live with it somehow. Shaw could help with Nemec and Luke being better.

 

[dgibb10]

They might want to also push Miro away from having to be insane minute eater, have Harley + Dougie (for example eat the PP mins) and then have Lindell and Miro play PK solely outside of 5v5. Their right side has also been hilariously bad for good the rest of the roster is.

I think if we really like Bourque there is a deal to be made there with Casey as a prospect swap even if the money with dougie doesn't work.

 

[dgibb10]

They might want to also push Miro away from having to be insane minute eater, have Harley + Dougie (for example eat the PP mins) and then have Lindell and Miro play PK solely outside of 5v5. Their right side has also been hilariously bad for good the rest of the roster is.

Seguin could play on Jack-Bratts line and win faceoffs while playing the wing? He's a stud in the circle.

(probably more involved in the deal but that would be non cap impacting futures probably)

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Seguin could play on Jack-Bratts line and win faceoffs while playing the wing? He's a stud in the circle.

(probably more involved in the deal but that would be non cap impacting futures probably)
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I loved Seguin since his draft year and would love him but I truly think he's gonna retire in Dallas. The patience they had with the dude when his hip was cooked and let him come back at his pace. Plus I think, again, similar to Benn if they win or lose that they'll return there. Him and Benn will probably get their numbers retired if they win this year too.

 

[dgibb10]

I loved Seguin since his draft year and would love him but I truly think he's gonna retire in Dallas. The patience they had with the dude when his hip was cooked and let him come back at his pace. Plus I think, again, similar to Benn if they win or lose that they'll return there. Him and Benn will probably get their numbers retired if they win this year too.

I'd agree with that. I'd expect without seguin involved tho they can't move enough cap to make dougie viable unless there's retention involved (which I would avoid as NJD and they don't have the picks to be able to buy)

So I'd then expect a deal involving Casey and Bourque if bourque is who we target

 

[dgibb10]

I loved Seguin since his draft year and would love him but I truly think he's gonna retire in Dallas. The patience they had with the dude when his hip was cooked and let him come back at his pace. Plus I think, again, similar to Benn if they win or lose that they'll return there. Him and Benn will probably get their numbers retired if they win this year too.

Also, in terms of Seguin, I worry he may be overrated after riding a ridiculous 18% on ice shooting % this year on a small sample size

Although I expect that would come more from casual fans than actual front offices.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Also, in terms of Seguin, I worry he may be overrated after riding a ridiculous 18% on ice shooting % this year on a small sample size

Although I expect that would come more from casual fans than actual front offices.

Seguin has always had an elite shot/been a good skater. An above average shooting year doesn't scare me

 

[dgibb10]

Seguin has always had an elite shot/been a good skater. An above average shooting year doesn't scare me

He's an 11% career shooter and a 10.7% career OISH% and we're looking at 8-9% higher over a 20 game sample size.

 

[theoptimist]

Fitz paying double for his mistakes

 

[Andre Palot]

Someone slap Fitz

If he felt those other three names cost too much or would be an overpay, I'm thinking Sam Bennett isn't gonna be the player that breaks that trend.

 

[Andre Palot]

By god is that Brendan Smith's music I hear as a 4RW and PK king

Don't give Fitz ideas. Someone might be reading this and rubbing their hands in glee.

 

[MadDevil]

Thankfully none of them are UFA this summer. Although at this point I'm already bracing for signing a center that won't actually fix anything for too much/too long because Fitz tends to overcorrect.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Not surprising at all, these are the guys that we should have been looking at and the fact he didn't pay out the nose means that Fitz made the right decision.

I am bracing myself for the inevitable free agency overpay.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Its either a free agency overpay or gambling on a cheaper Glass type option.

 

[My3Sons]

Its either a free agency overpay or gambling on a cheaper Glass type option.

I’d go the latter route. Find another reclamation project. The cap hit will be low as will the acquisition cost.

 

[Emperoreddy]

EJ says one team is willing to give Bennett $10 million so he isnt coming here unless he does us a favor

 

[RyGuy]

I hadn't been watching much of the Worlds, but a couple people on the main boards had name dropped Tyler Moy as somebody who had a nice showing. Looks like he was playing a bit with Nico and Timo. Although it looks like Moy is signed with his Swiss club through 2026, but dunno if he has an out clause or was looking to come back to North America.

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Moy's from my neck of the woods in San Diego. He was a late round pick by Nashville at the 2015 Draft. I snapped a photo of the board and texted a friend who forwarded it to Moy's dad. I like to think that's how he found out.

Are you telling me he could already be in our system if we didnt draft QuestForStanl - errrr- Brett Seney?! Damn you, hindsight!

 

[Forge]

Thankfully none of them are UFA this summer. Although at this point I'm already bracing for signing a center that won't actually fix anything for too much/too long because Fitz tends to overcorrect.

Schenn is the type of guy I could see Fitz acquiring for Dougie (if both teams could get the clauses to go through)

 

[Oneiro]

If that list and the Bennett thing are true, I'm off the fence re: Fitz and am fine with moving on.

He's in this situation because of his shit drafting and doubling down on what hasn't worked isn't going to solve that.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Everyone on that list made sense as deadline players to look into.

A huge chunk of the board wanted ROR

 

[youryeah]

If that list and the Bennett thing are true, I'm off the fence re: Fitz and am fine with moving on.

He's in this situation because of his shit drafting and doubling down on what hasn't worked isn't going to solve that.

the guy is just a contributor to that website and sounded like merely an unfounded guess

 

[Mgd31]

Anthony DiMarco doesn’t know shit. He thought we had 22 million in cap space this summer but he neglected to realize Jack’s cap hit was still on LTIR

 

[My3Sons]

EJ says one team is willing to give Bennett $10 million so he isnt coming here unless he does us a favor

That team is his team of agents. Whether they can con an NHL team to do the same remains to be seen