Devils discussion (news, notes and speculation) - offseason edition

[Time Skip]

And maybe Quinn doesn’t come. Maybe he gets moved to a Florida or somewhere that contends or wins with him. Maybe he grows a bit older and meets someone, settles down where he is. Maybe Luke signs straight to UFA and the boys have ideas

Or maybe he’s set on coming here in UFA.

I am building this team going forward with him as a possibility, not a probability. He wont be offered to us, at any point, for anything short of a pot of gold. A ~8m Norris-winning defenseman who can be retained on…

If he comes, he comes. Let’s not rush things and finally let New Jersey be a destination players CHOOSE to come to

 

[JrFischer54]

Devils could use someone like Matty guy is a warrior and exactly what you need in the playoffs. Get his brother here


Honestly people saying Bennett will be overpayment on his contract who cares as long as you get this version of him for 3-4 years you take the hit on the back end.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

"Devils can use a top 3-5 wing in the league"

Yeah, no shit the whole league can.

 

[Emperoreddy]

You dont trade the house for Quinn when you can wait and get him for free or less.

If its a reasonable deal definitely do it sooner, but if they want the whole farm wait a year when they get desperate.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The palat deal was a year too long, but we needed a player like him when we did it.

I think he would have earned his money in the postseason if we were healthier and lasted longer.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Luke + mercer for quinn only way a deal makes sense

 

[Smitty426]

sure

now, why would the Flyers trade a guy they just signed longterm to a division rival?

James: Three Players the Flyers Could Trade This Offseason

The Philadelphia Flyers have a big offseason ahead. With Rick Tocchet now the head coach and the team getting closer and closer to contention, each offseason until they reach that point will be crucial. The Flyers may not make the big splash yet, but you never know. If the right player becomes...

phillyhockeynow.com

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

Imagine sign him as a free agent.

Quinn-Pesce
Luke-Simon
Silayev-Casey

All of the young defenseman in their better shape, especially with Shaw.

It could be one of the best defensive cores in the history if everything would go in the right direction.

I remember this story...

 

[NJDevs26]

James: Three Players the Flyers Could Trade This Offseason

The Philadelphia Flyers have a big offseason ahead. With Rick Tocchet now the head coach and the team getting closer and closer to contention, each offseason until they reach that point will be crucial. The Flyers may not make the big splash yet, but you never know. If the right player becomes...

phillyhockeynow.com

The only way we get anyone from the Flyers is if the team they trade him to flips him a la Rantanen going from Colorado to Dallas via Carolina

 

[Guadana]

I remember this story...

You comparing Quinn Hughes and 2OA pick Simon Nemec with Urbom and Gelinas?

 

[MadDevil]

Devils could use someone like Matty guy is a warrior and exactly what you need in the playoffs. Get his brother here


Honestly people saying Bennett will be overpayment on his contract who cares as long as you get this version of him for 3-4 years you take the hit on the back end.

Hmmm...where have I heard this before?

 

[MasterofGrond]

Bennett is overrated. I’d take him on the team absolutely but you won’t catch me paying more than like 5M for the privilege. He’s worth a little more than that maybe but that contract has grenade written all over it.

Somebody is gonna give him 8 if they win the natty

 

[thebeernerd]

‘If I don’t get brought up like that, I’m probably not here’: How country music helped lead Matt Duchene to Nashville

Matt Duchene's love of country music, which dates to his upbringing in Haliburton, Ontario, has made Nashville feel like home.

www.nytimes.com

Dallas Stars’ Matt Duchene scores twice, performs show at Tootsies

Duchene played four seasons in Nashville.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

How country music helped Matt Duchene find the perfect fit in Dallas

Stars newcomer Matt Duchene has made an immediate impact in his first season in Dallas. Country music has helped him bond with his teammates and transition to...

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It'd probably be the other way around, I'm not sure we'd necessarily be on his radar. Seemed like his second career in country music led him to sign in Nashville / get bought out by Nashville as they thought he was getting distracted. Music appears to be a factor with him subsequently signing with Dallas. So we'll see if Duchene chooses to leave the region.

From a hockey perspective, Duchene would be great fit depending on the contract.

Get ready to take up ska, Matt.

 

[Fan from Maine]

I am pleased that the Devils hired Brad Shaw as assistent to Keefe. Shaw was an assist coach in Philly and then became interm coach he wasn't selected as head coach so he became available for the Devils to hire. He wanted the head coaching job in Philly and when he wasn't selected he did not want to stay with Philly as the assistant. So welcome to the Devils, Brad

 

[Nocashstyle]

Get ready to take up ska, Matt.

“Study this. There will be a test.”

 

[MartyOwns]

some highlights from a 95 game against philly. some real @JimEIV spank bank material. happy summer, aholes

 

[Billdo]

Quinn Hughes doesn't represent a need, at all. Yes, he's an incredible player, yes he will make the team better, but his coming here would create a lot of dumb issues - is the top power play the Hughes brothers and two other players? Is Luke okay with playing PP2 for the rest of his career? How does this affect any sort of power dynamics on the team moving forward, knowing that the Devils basically have 1/3rd of their cap tied up in 3 players who have aligned incentives more than any other group of 3 players?

I don't think people talking about trading guys like Nemec and Silayev realize that once those guys are gone, that is it. The Devils would be basically done having high-value assets outside of the NHL and this is the team they are rolling with; they're basically in Tampa Bay mode from that point forward. I don't think that's at all a good idea, especially not when Hughes might come here for free in 2 seasons.

This is an excellent post. Really. I'm not paying the price for him now at the expense of ANY higher end prospect we have because there is nothing behind them. It's not like we have a surplus. Let him show how much he wants to play with them and sign as an UFA. Basically giving the keys to the club to the Hughes family will almost certainly be something that other players see as potentially problematic as well. I'd love Quinn here but I'm not paying the price prospect and pick wise.

 

[Billdo]

Hamilton Mercer Silayev Casey 1st rnd

For

Hughes-Garland.

Cap neutral. Mercer's spot is filled by Garland. Only hit to the depth chart is RHD. Find a cheap older pk'r to hold the spot until Kova is back.

That's an understatement. It is completely gutted at that point.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

You comparing Quinn Hughes and 2OA pick Simon Nemec with Urbom and Gelinas?

You're probably forgetting how everyone was dreaming of the incredible defense with the prospects, which was the whole point. Quinn is obviously already established, Luke as well somewhat. The rest are still very "remains to be seen"

and no, I don't give 2 shits about draft position. Prospects are prospects.

 

[Guadana]

You're probably forgetting how everyone was dreaming of the incredible defense with the prospects, which was the whole point. Quinn is obviously already established, Luke as well somewhat. The rest are still very "remains to be seen"

and no, I don't give 2 shits about draft position. Prospects are prospects.

You are messing the level of prospects. On my taste of course. Pesce is quite good defenseman too btw.

 

[dgibb10]

Bennett is overrated. I’d take him on the team absolutely but you won’t catch me paying more than like 5M for the privilege. He’s worth a little more than that maybe but that contract has grenade written all over it.

Somebody is gonna give him 8 if they win the natty

In terms of florida forwards I'd want, I'd probably go 8 deep before I got to Bennett.

Erod and Eetu are bargains at 3 mill providing great value. (if a trade could be made here I'd go after them)

Lundell and Barkov are clearly better than bennett, especially defensively.

Reinhart, Marchand, Verhaeghe and Tkachuk are legit difference makers, even as marchand ages.

I expect florida lets him walk and moves Lundell up, who's already better.

 

[Whaddagoal]

The palat deal was a year too long, but we needed a player like him when we did it.

I think he would have earned his money in the postseason if we were healthier and lasted longer.

Either that groin injury really screwed up his overall speed longterm, or he was bound to decline like that.

I agree, absolutely, when he was signed, we needed a player just like him. I think it is a bit one of those unfortunate situations that didn't pan out because of the initial long injury + how the rest really panned out.

But for any one to pretend we didn't need a veteran like him on the team, particularly at that moment in time, would be lying to themselves.

 

[Forge]

 

[JrFischer54]

some highlights from a 95 game against philly. some real @JimEIV spank bank material. happy summer, aholes

man even the announcers sound like old timey ones that you would hear calling baseball games from the 30s

 

[thebeernerd]

Someone slap Fitz