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Nocashstyle said:
So true! Zegras’ game would translate into the perfect 3rd line center! Such a missed opportunity.
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At 5-on-5, the Devils deploy 3C and 2C relatively interchangeably. You can call him whatever you want to make yourself feel better, but he doesn't have to play on a "checking" line. Deploy him in the OZ, give him PP2/PP1 minutes, play him next to Meier. He's 2 years removed from being a 65-point play-driving center. I don't care what his stats look like on the dumpster-fire-ducks the last couple of years.
 
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No one is doubting Zegras' skill, but he's not the guy I would be targeting with our cap space for this season and hope that he's a bounce back candidate.

He might do very well in Philly, but I could see him getting into Tocchet's doghouse in a hurry. He's been straight up bad the past couple of seasons.

People want to cast Mercer aside, but he's been a far better player these past two seasons than Zegras has been.
 
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Better Call Sal said:
No one is doubting Zegras' skill, but he's not the guy I would be targeting with our cap space for this season and hope that he's a bounce back candidate.

He might do very well in Philly, but I could see him getting into Tocchet's doghouse in a hurry. He's been straight up bad the past couple of seasons.

People want to cast Mercer aside, but he's been a far better player these past two seasons than Zegras has been.
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Peppers and eggs!

Zegras also didn't play with a Jack Hughes or a Nico Hischier.
 
Andre Palot said:
I always liked Jon Merrill's game and felt he was a more underrated defenseman for us. But I don't think Jon Merrill would be an effective player for us all these years later.
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Well like Triumph noted we are talking about a guy who is slated to be the 7th dman. He’s not going to be that good.

But I don’t care if its Merrill or someone else.
 
Better Call Sal said:
No one is doubting Zegras' skill, but he's not the guy I would be targeting with our cap space for this season and hope that he's a bounce back candidate.

He might do very well in Philly, but I could see him getting into Tocchet's doghouse in a hurry. He's been straight up bad the past couple of seasons.

People want to cast Mercer aside, but he's been a far better player these past two seasons than Zegras has been.
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The upside on Zegras is definitely something we should have been looking at. It's low commitment and if you were concerned about the salary, I'm sure the Ducks could have retained a bit depending on the offer.

We have zero scoring talent in the bottom 6. This could have helped.
 
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MB3 said:
acting like zegras isn't an upgrade over Palat, Glass, or Mercer -- who all played significant minutes (and powerplay minutes!) for the Devils last year is... something.
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Ooh, a false choice, this is fun. Mercer played on PP1 a bit because of handedness. That's it.

MB3 said:
At 5-on-5, the Devils deploy 3C and 2C relatively interchangeably. You can call him whatever you want to make yourself feel better, but he doesn't have to play on a "checking" line. Deploy him in the OZ, give him PP2/PP1 minutes, play him next to Meier. He's 2 years removed from being a 65-point play-driving center. I don't care what his stats look like on the dumpster-fire-ducks the last couple of years.
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The Devils don't have the ability to do this because they already give Jack Hughes this ice time. Which is why it's a terrible idea to even think about acquiring Trevor Zegras.
 
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SteveCangialosi123 said:
I had no interest in Zegras at all. He’s pretty clearly not a guy Fitz would be targeting anyway. Horrendous defensively, zero physicality, stagnating offense.
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Terrifying thought exercise: limit our favorite offseason targets to "only players fitz would like"
I'll go first. Fitz probably scratching his neck itching to trade a 3rd for this guy and offer him a two-year one-way deal.

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Triumph said:
Ooh, a false choice, this is fun. Mercer played on PP1 a bit because of handedness. That's it.



The Devils don't have the ability to do this because they already give Jack Hughes this ice time. Which is why it's a terrible idea to even think about acquiring Trevor Zegras.
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You know in my 20 years of conversing with you on various different Devils forums I am starting to think that you use the word "fun" sarcastically.

I understand why you can't play Jack Hughes and Trevor Zegras on the same line. I plainly do not understand why they can't play on the same hockey team.
 
MB3 said:
Terrifying thought exercise: limit our favorite offseason targets to "only players fitz would like"
I'll go first. Fitz probably scratching his neck itching to trade a 3rd for this guy and offer him a two-year one-way deal.

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Who hurt you?
 
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BostonDevil said:
The upside on Zegras is definitely something we should have been looking at. It's low commitment and if you were concerned about the salary, I'm sure the Ducks could have retained a bit depending on the offer.

We have zero scoring talent in the bottom 6. This could have helped.
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That “low” risk price doesn’t stay then same then.
 
MB3 said:
Terrifying thought exercise: limit our favorite offseason targets to "only players fitz would like"
I'll go first. Fitz probably scratching his neck itching to trade a 3rd for this guy and offer him a two-year one-way deal.

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My wishlist for the offseason is based in reality, so a guy the current GM would or wouldn’t be interested in should be something you factor in.

Even ignoring Fitz, the fit for Zegras on this team is terrible on multiple levels. The C I want should be a guy that can take some PK/defensive load off of Nico and preferably be a reliable faceoff guy. I don’t really care about size which is why I’ve advocated for Pageau/Suter or a lesser guy like Lizotte.
 
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MB3 said:
You know in my 20 years of conversing with you on various different Devils forums I am starting to think that you use the word "fun" sarcastically.

I understand why you can't play Jack Hughes and Trevor Zegras on the same line. I plainly do not understand why they can't play on the same hockey team.
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Because if Zegras isn't playing on PP1 you're paying him too much money, and both guys are best used in similar deployment, so having 2 of them means you can't really do that, there's not enough ES ice to go around.

The Devils need a 3rd line center who can take some of the hard minutes away from Nico, not a guy who puts even more on his plate.
 
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At this point, I prefer to live in fantasy land where the Devs have a competent front office capable of tough decisions: Realizing the season was cooked and they were short on offseason assets / cap with MAJOR forward gaps to fill, they moved Kovacevic for a 1st+ or a C prospect and Allen retained to, say, Edmonton for 2025 3rd and 26 2nd. Devs then have assets and needed cap to go after required C/forward help. A guy can dream.
 
MB3 said:
“Insulting” is wild.

Someone else saying “against literal children” is also wild. Gritsyuk is (barely) 24. There will be plenty of 22 year olds at camp.

You guys are doing a lot of work over a snide comment. Gritsyuk not attending development camp is not even remotely surprising given everything we’ve know and discussed about this prospect since before my 2nd grader was born.
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My first second grader was born in 1997. Of course I was born in 1797. Or maybe it was 1697?
 
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Nocashstyle said:
That “low” risk price doesn’t stay then same then.
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Does a 2nd get it done? I don't know. What I do know is that we get zero offense from the bottom 6 and a 24 year old who put up 65 points in his last full season was available. HALF of that would put him #7 in forward scoring on this team last year.
 
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