Confirmed with Link: Devils acquire Vitek Vanecek and 46th Overall pick from WSH for 37th Overall pick and 70th Overall pick

[Devs3cups]

not what I expected. I don't care too much though. It's not outlandish

Pretty much going rate for the goalie market these days. Vanecek is solid. Hope he can at least give us average goaltending, I’m confident he can.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

well I was wrong on that one for sure...didnt think he'd get that much AAV

Same number as Georgiev. It does make it harder to fit in Blackwood on a long term deal if he blows him away next year and shows he's a bonafide starter but it's doable if necessary.

 

[Bleedred]

well I was wrong on that one for sure...didnt think he'd get that much AAV

Yeah, I was thinking about $3 million a year, but thought it could be higher, but definitely couldn't see it being over $3.5 million. I wonder if the Husso deal (which SUCKS) was enough to inflate Vanecek/other goalies deals?

This almost definitely seals Blackwood's fate beyond this year, unless he winds up having a GREAT season and Vanecek is the one that bombs out. Blackwood's qualifying offer is $3 million for next year and $6.4 million is way too much to spend on a goalie tandem where one of them has been SHIT for 2 of the last 3 years and potentially the last 3 years. If he has anything short of a remarkable season then he's probably getting Samsonov'd.

 

[MartyOwns]

blackwood sealed his own fate with his actions and suckage. i’m here for vtec!

 

[Zubrus Coffee Maker]

3.4 seems totally fine to me, that’s a decent rate if he ends up a backup if Blackwood pops, and it’s a good rate if he ends up starting. Let’s see how they both play, but that should bridge the gap to Daws/Schmid very nicely

 

[NjDevsRR]

blackwood sealed his own fate with his actions and suckage. i’m here for vtec!

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Best username on here

 

[Saugus]

Slightly more than I expected, but the contract is fine and I'm glad we have at least one competent goalie signed now.

Seems like he's being paid at the rate a tandem goalie would be, not a clear backup. We knew there would be competition between him and Blackwood for who is the #1 goalie, and this confirms it.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Hell yeah love it. With the market the way it is, was hoping Fitz could get a few years under 4m.

 

[Nubmer6]

I was actually expecting 4M. I'm good with this.

 

[Darkauron]

Good deal and good price

 

[mtnet]

Not bad, hopefully he works out but I have no issues with the deal for now.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Going rate for a goalie tbh.

And if Blackwood resurrects himself and we gotta move on EASILY movable given how thin the market is.

I’m pleased.

 

[Guttersniped]

Weirdly relieved because Vanacek is very pricey on Evolving Hockey’s model for some reason. So 3 years/3.4m feels fine.

Admittedly this is the first time they’ve done it and there’s less data to go by but they had his most likely contract (66%) at 4 years/5.354m. At 3 years it’s 5.172m. Not sure why it was so high but that was off-putting lol.

Kahkonen got 2 year/2.75m and they had him with 2 years at 2.779m. So bullseye.

They had Husso with 3 years at 4.514m and he got 3 years/4.75m from Detroit.

They had Campbell at 5 years/5.8m and he got 5 years/5m from the Oilers.

Kuemper came in less, they had him with 5 years at 6.402m and he took 5 years/5.25m. He likely understood that’s all the Caps could afford.

Casey Desmith gave the Pens a nice deal with his 2 years/1.8m when EH hockey had him at 2 years/2.45m.

They have Samsonov with one year at 2.149m and Toronto gave him 1 year/1.8m

And Evolving Hockey’s estimate *snicker* had Martin *giggle* Jones *chortle* with 1 year *cackle* at 1.557m *guffaw* but the Oilers signed him *peals of laughter* to a 1 year/2m deal *actual death*.

 

[OmNomNom]

Weirdly relieved because Vanacek is very pricey on Evolving Hockey’s model for some reason. So 3 years/3.4m feels fine.

Admittedly this is the first time they’ve done it and there’s less data to go by but they had his most likely contract (66%) at 4 years/5.354m. At 3 years it’s 5.172m. Not sure why it was so high but that was off-putting lol.

Kahkonen got 2 year/2.75m and they had him with 2 years at 2.779m. So bullseye.

They had Husso with 3 years at 4.514m and he got 3 years/4.75m from Detroit.

They had Campbell at 5 years/5.8m and he got 5 years/5m from the Oilers.

Kuemper came in less, they had him with 5 years at 6.402m and he took 5 years/5.25m. He likely understood that’s all the Caps could afford.

Casey Desmith gave the Pens a nice deal with his 2 years/1.8m when EH hockey had him at 2 years/2.45m.

They have Samsonov with one year at 2.149m and Toronto gave him 1 year/1.8m

And Evolving Hockey’s estimate *snicker* had Martin *giggle* Jones *chortle* with 1 year *cackle* at 1.557m *guffaw* but the Oilers signed him *peals of laughter* to a 1 year/2m deal *actual death*.

i love how they haven't been hired by a team and (i think ) are sticking to being independent

 

[JimEIV]

Yeah, I was thinking about $3 million a year, but thought it could be higher, but definitely couldn't see it being over $3.5 million. I wonder if the Husso deal (which SUCKS) was enough to inflate Vanecek/other goalies deals?

This almost definitely seals Blackwood's fate beyond this year, unless he winds up having a GREAT season and Vanecek is the one that bombs out. Blackwood's qualifying offer is $3 million for next year and $6.4 million is way too much to spend on a goalie tandem where one of them has been SHIT for 2 of the last 3 years and potentially the last 3 years. If he has anything short of a remarkable season then he's probably getting Samsonov'd.

We need still need another goalie capable of playing 40 games...Whether it's Blackwood or someone else it's going to cost.

 

[OmNomNom]

We need still need another goalie capable of playing 40 games...Whether it's Blackwood or someone else it's going to cost.

maybe one of our many goalie prospects will pan out

 

[JimEIV]

maybe one of our many goalie prospects will pan out

Maybe but are you going to possibly burn a season to find out?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Maybe but are you going to possibly burn a season to find out?

the goalies this season are Blackwood and Vanecek whether we like that or not. I don't really know what you mean by "burning" a season...this is just the reality of where we're at right now.

 

[JimEIV]

the goalies this season are Blackwood and Vanecek whether we like that or not. I don't really know what you mean by "burning" a season...this is just the reality of where we're at right now.

We were talking about what to do in the future if Blackwood is gone...

Do you sign someone or go with a prospect. If sign someone it's probably expensive...if you go with a prospect I was suggesting that you are stepping into the unknown and potentially possibly burning a season only having 1 capable goalie.

But chill out a little

 

[OmNomNom]

Maybe but are you going to possibly burn a season to find out?

repeating what's been said, but we have no choice but to do that (unless we can move tatar/johnsson) - we have a good chunk coming off the books next summer, and the UFA goalie crop looks a lot better

i agree with you, if we go for a UFA, it's gonna be crazy expensive. but if we can turn a short-term contract whilst finding out if we have a good goalie in one of our rookies, then great. plus, if blackwood ends up being trash, we'll prob be on the hook for just a year (since he's RFA next season)

 

[Forge]

Think the team just really wanted that third year. Basically bought out 2 ufa years, so I get how the aav got a little inflated

 

[Zubrus Coffee Maker]

Best username on here

Bless

I appreciate the love

 

[Bleedred]

We need still need another goalie capable of playing 40 games...Whether it's Blackwood or someone else it's going to cost.

What if Vanecek breaks out and can play 50 games? We shouldn’t be bringing back Blackwood because he can play 40 games.

His last 55 games have been horrific. If that continues then he’s a complete no count for 40 games.

 

[Eggtimer]

@Nubmer6 so... is Vanacek a reactional goalie?

I'm glad Fitz didn't give up any big assets for a goalie - it's almost the perfect show-me scenario wherein we aren't overpaying or dealing pieces to make a move that is still going to be largely dependent upon what types of shots we give up in front of him. I expect Blackwood to bounce back big, unless we are a complete horror show again like last year, and I expect Vanacek to play about the same as Blackwood does. So... tldr I'm hopeful. Great move.

I like the move because we did not commit big money and long term for a goalie that had warts (Husso Keumper Campbell) . No way I woild habe paid what those guys got . They are way too risky - short sample sizes , injury history, getting up there in age .
I don’t think those guys were all that much better than Vanacek to warrant that long of term and $$$.
Im just glad Fitz acquired him when he did or we could have easily been left holding the bag with zero goalies available and teams would rape us on the asking price knowing we would be desperate.

 

[JimEIV]

What if Vanecek breaks out and can play 50 games? We shouldn’t be bringing back Blackwood because he can play 40 games.

His last 55 games have been horrific. If that continues then he’s a complete no count for 40 games.

We saw that exact scenario in 2020...Blackwood played 47 with a .915 SV% and we had nothing behind him...He managed to win 22 games and the rest of the goalies won 6 games.

That's not really a solution.