Detroit Redwings Downfall

[FMichael]

Yes, it’s criminal how far they fell, especially in 2019-20. Still not the only way to accumulate talent.

While true - signing UFAs isn’t exactly a given considering who wants to play for a team in rebuilding mode? Latest rumor is/was Stamkos was interested in Detroit, but apparently Nashville offered and extra season…So we have Kane and Tarasenko (meh signings).

As for trades - outside of DeBrincat and dumping Walman - Yzerman doesn’t appear willing right now to do anything considering he’d rather keep our prospects and picks…Unless something unexpected happens I get the impression he’ll stand pat - unless it’s the trade deadline and we’re outta the picture then I can see some vets like Kane being moved.

My #1 beef with Yzerman - what did/does he see in Lalonde??!!

 

[Pavels Dog]

It's kind of funny how Detroit might have the best and worst defensive pairings in the NHL this season.

 

[Peasy]

Raymonds a stud thats for sure

 

[TKB]

Better question - why do you think it’s acceptable for one of the League’s premier franchises to have been outside of the playoffs for this long with no clear goal of when to get back, much less contend for a title?



Actually I don’t think he should be fired yet (as opposed to Lalonde, who never should have been retained for this season and should have been fired after the losses to the Ducks and Sharks last week). But if he continues to fail to produce meaningful results, then yes, he should be on the hot seat and have more pressure applied to accelerate this process.

Like I said, it’s a results-oriented business, and he’s not delivered meaningful results. (After six years, the “but they’ve improved their point total” excuse doesn’t fly anymore).

Oh, and you can drop the lazy “oh you think you could do better???” nonsense. I’ve never directed a film but I’m allowed to go to the movies and say what I paid to watch stunk.


Feel free to continue when you can write above the level of a blind second grader.

Better question - why do you think it’s acceptable for one of the League’s premier franchises to have been outside of the playoffs for this long with no clear goal of when to get back, much less contend for a title?



Actually I don’t think he should be fired yet (as opposed to Lalonde, who never should have been retained for this season and should have been fired after the losses to the Ducks and Sharks last week). But if he continues to fail to produce meaningful results, then yes, he should be on the hot seat and have more pressure applied to accelerate this process.

Like I said, it’s a results-oriented business, and he’s not delivered meaningful results. (After six years, the “but they’ve improved their point total” excuse doesn’t fly anymore).

Oh, and you can drop the lazy “oh you think you could do better???” nonsense. I’ve never directed a film but I’m allowed to go to the movies and say what I paid to watch stunk.


Feel free to continue when you can write above the level of a blind second grader.

The goal for "one of the league's premiere franchises" should be higher than just loading up to make the playoffs or short term splash.

SY is looking to build a foundation for extended success from which two perhaps three windows for serious SC contention can open. You can disagree with the approach but that is what they are trying to do, and it takes time. A lot of time.

In that context, the (continued) development of key prospects, is far more important to the long term success of the team than making the playoffs this year. Establishing and maintain a sustainable salary (and term) structure is also critical to the long run plan.

How is it lazy to ask how you think Jimmy D. and Chris I should proceed? I (and others) have made numerous posts explaining or backing up our positions. Of course you are free to disagree.

You can in fact go the movies without being a director and proclaim the movie stinks, but if you don't back it up with any analysis or offer alternatives - it is just a rant and not worthy of further discussion.

 

[deca guard]

Aside from your woeful grammar, the fact that you think anyone who isn’t okay with missing the playoffs for the 6th straight year while holding out blind faith on untested, unproven prospects tells me you’re not interested in being taken seriously in this discussion.

you dont even make sense . i already explained the task isnt to get back into playoffs as quickly as possible at the cost of greater long term success . the task is to create a depth chart today that will lead to long term success and as many chances at a championship as possible which is best for redwing fans . but you continue to have to cry about missing playoffs 6 years when that has ZILCH to do with yzerman , that was the mess he inherited . but your in a rush to have bragging rights so you can get your motor mouth running and announce how smart and wonderful you are by being a fan of a good team . and right off the bat when somebody is whining about grammar at a hockey forum you know theyve got issues . then theres your babbling about prospects whivch are obviously needed to build a team being untested / unproven as if everey great hockey player hasnt been an untested prospect , and like its impossible for a teams fans to judge how good a prospect might become by their performances in lesser leagues , lol . just pack it up

 

[Dotter]

I can see them leapfrogging Boston, I’d be more concerned about Buffalo and Tampa tbh.

Do you expect we’ll see Cossa at some point this year?

Not this season. Wings have 4 NHL goalies; Talbot, Lyon, Campbell and Husso. I do not understand the Jack Campbell signing.

 

[dekelikekocur]

His plan is a terrible one if it doesn't take into account what everyone outside of Detroit uses to adjudge the success of an NHL team: making the playoffs and competing for the Cup. Right now it's all words until he does that, and the team is no closer than when he took over. You can tout his greatness when the team he's assembled makes the post-season for the first time.

The only person's opinion on how Detroit is doing is Illitch. No, you don't do your job based on what non factors think you should be doing. You do your job based on who signs your paycheck opinion.

The fact you posted this bullshit screams overly dramatic tween with a self confidence issue.

 

[VeteranPresence]

The only person's opinion on how Detroit is doing is Illitch. No, you don't do your job based on what non factors think you should be doing. You do your job based on who signs your paycheck opinion.

The fact you posted this bullshit screams overly dramatic tween with a self confidence issue.

TIL that judging an NHL GM's success based on facts and results rather than feels is a sign of poor self-confidence. What banner does Yzerman get for making Mr. Illitch feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

 

[norrisnick]

TIL that judging an NHL GM's success based on facts and results rather than feels is a sign of poor self-confidence. What banner does Yzerman get for making Mr. Illitch feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

Mr. Ilitch hasn't been feeling anything of late let alone warm and fuzzy.