Detroit Red Wings 2002 Depth chart

[blogofmike]

The 95-96 Pens shouldn't be punished for Nedved/Sandstrom lacking name value. They converted PP opportunities at a rate the Wings didn't match.

 

[GMR]

I should write Dan Cloutier a Thank You Note every day, because without him, I wouldn't have had the greatest April, May and June of my teenage life.

 

[Voight]

Yeah, that Detroit team was pretty stacked in 2002, Something like 9 or 10 Hall of Famers on the roster I believe.

I think it will be 10 or 11 when Fedorov/Lidstrom get in this year.

 

[DisgruntledGoat*]

The Avs have to be a contender for best post-dynasty PP with Bourque, Blake, Sakic, Forsberg, Hejduk, Drury, etc.

I don't remember what the exact units were. And I should. I watched them take apart my Oilers enough times.

 

[Hobnobs]

The Avs have to be a contender for best post-dynasty PP with Bourque, Blake, Sakic, Forsberg, Hejduk, Drury, etc.

I don't remember what the exact units were. And I should. I watched them take apart my Oilers enough times.

It was

Forsberg/Tanguay - Sakic - Forsberg/Hejduk
Bourque - Blake

2nd unit

Tanguay - Drury - Forsberg
Blake/Bourque - Foote/Skoula

 

[blogofmike]

They might not be the best PP unit that decade from Detroit. The 2008-09 Wings converted 25.5& of their PPs (vs 20.7% in 2002).

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Basically... I dont think theres been a better PP-unit since the dynasty Oilers... I might be wrong but my statement wouldnt be far off if thats the case.

nieuwendyk/roberts, bullard/otto/gilmour, mullen/loob/fleury/makarov, macinnis and suter: so underrated.

flames:

1986 (+suter): 1st in goals, 4th in PPG, 4th in PP%
1987 (+mullen): 2nd in goals, 6th in PPG, 1st in PP%
1988 (+nieuwendyk): 1st in goals, 4th in PPG, 1st in PP%
1989 (+gilmour): 2nd in everything
1990 (+makarov, -loob): 1st, 2nd, 1st
1991: (fleury/roberts emerge): 1st in everything
1992 (-gilmour): 5th in everything
1993 (macinnis plays 50 games, suter's last year): 11th, 13th, 14th


penguins:

1990: 4th, 3rd, 10th
1991: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd (not much mario)
1992: 1st, 2nd, 4th
1993: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
1994: 5th, 14th, 14th (not much mario)
1995: 2nd, 8th, 10th (no mario)
1996: 1st in everything
1997: 1st, 2nd, 2nd


that 5 year run where the flames went 1, 1, 2, 1, 1 on the PP is unparalleled, imo. [and i don't think there's been a more overall dominant offensive stretch than their '88-'91.]

at their best, those flames ran away with the scoring race and PP race every bit as much as the '96 pens did. and they did it in a league that still had gretzky on the oilers.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

The playoff run is what I remember the most and what Bowman ran with when it mattered most:

Shanahan - Fedorov - Yzerman
Robitaille - Larionov - Holmstrom
Devereaux - Datsyuk - Hull
Maltby - Draper - McCarty

Lidstrom - Olausson
Fischer - Chelios
Duchesne - Dandenault

Hasek
Legace

Fedorov usually ended up playing centre but Yzerman took a lot of face-offs as well. The first line of forwards was obviously the top line. After that it's tough to actually label the importance of each line cause the Grind Line played a big role and sometimes the ice times weren't spread out like we'd expect them to be based on the names.

Jason Williams played forward when Larionov and Datsyuk missed time. Krupp played the first two games of the playoffs but was a disaster cause he hadn't played much all season. Slegr played the Cup clinching game cause Fischer was suspended.

to me, the real murderer's row is four selke-winning centers, plus another center who maybe could have won one if he'd played in north america in the 80s.

 

[GMR]

I don't remember Hull and Shanahan playing on the same powerplay unit together.

Wouldn't make much sense since they both preferred to be on their deadly one-timer.

 

[Hobnobs]

I don't remember Hull and Shanahan playing on the same powerplay unit together.

Wouldn't make much sense since they both preferred to be on their deadly one-timer.

Well that probably because as we all know Bowman liked to rotate the players. Sometimes it was Robitaille - Yzerman - Hull sometimes Hull was replaced by Holmström. Another line was Shanahan - Yzerman - Holmström with Chelios and Lidström on D. Another was Robitaille - Larionov - Hull.

 

[danincanada]

I don't remember Hull and Shanahan playing on the same powerplay unit together.

Wouldn't make much sense since they both preferred to be on their deadly one-timer.

The amount and ability of great one-timers on the ice for one PP was staggering. I've always thought that. Hull, Shanahan, Fedorov, Lidstrom, and Yzerman all had fairly elite level one-timer and sometimes they were all on the ice at the same time. They all knew how to move the puck, too. That just wasn't fair. Robitaille was no slouch either.

Bowman probably split some of them up so he'd have two great PP units but they still had plenty of shooters to go around.

 

[HunterRice]

And to think Roenick almost signed with them insted of philly

 

[Sticks and Pucks]

And to think Roenick almost signed with them insted of philly

Where do you think Roenick would have fit in if he did sign with Detroit? Perhaps Datsyuk spends the year in the AHL?

 

[The Pale King]

Roenick and Hull on the same team? and Shanny? I don't think ownership would have been willing to renovate Joe Louis to make the locker room big enough for all those egos.

I don't think the team would have been better with him, just that much more chance of somebody stepping on someone else's toes, PP time issues etc.

 

[Skobel24]

DownGoesBrown summed it up the best.

Detroit general manager Ken Holland had already been on the job for several seasons and two Stanley Cups (one as GM), so he wasn’t a guy who’d be afraid to come up with a strategy and execute it. In the case of the 2001 offseason, that strategy apparently involved watching a VHS tape of an All-Star Game from the early ’90s and screaming, “Get me all those guys.”

Pretty good article actually. http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2015/07/ten-facts-about-fun-team-2001-02.html