Proposal: Detroit-Blues

[NotTheRocketman]

Bertuzzi
For
Perunovich
Bolduc
STL 1st in 22 or 23

STL gets a top line winger, and Detroit adds a PMD, elite prospect, and another 1st.

What do we think?

We have forwards and scoring coming out our ears. The last thing we need is MORE scoring. And we're giving up two of our best prospects AND a 1st? There is absolutely no reason for the Blues to do this.

Who cares about Perunovich? He's not the meat of the deal.

He's a Hobey Baker winning defenseman and projects to be VERY good.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Who cares about Perunovich? He's not the meat of the deal.

Even if he's not the "meat" of the deal He's not some throw in either. I wouldn't trade Bolduc +1st for Bert, I sure as hell wouldn't be adding Perunovich into the deal on top of that.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I completely understand blues fans saying they wouldn’t wanna make a trade like this because they are stacked at forward, but it’s another thing to act like bertuzzi isn’t good enough to warrant a 1st and bolduc. His talent is definitely worth that if he signed an extension.

 

[BlueSeal]

Bertuzzi
For
Perunovich
Bolduc
STL 1st in 22 or 23

STL gets a top line winger, and Detroit adds a PMD, elite prospect, and another 1st.

What do we think?

It's a rental and for the price, not a good one.

For what you're asking, you ADD and add quite a bit.

We're not in that big a need for offensive talent that is untested in the playoffs.

We are, however, in need of strong LHD that can either slot top 4 or be a 1LHD, which is what your offer is heading towards. If you had one, we would add. Got any of those?

If not, there's no deal here and Army won't even look at it once, let alone twice.

And if memory serves, he isn't vaccinated so he can't travel to Canada and play games there. If that's changed, I'd like to hear about it. If not, then we definitely wouldn't want him.

I completely understand blues fans saying they wouldn’t wanna make a trade like this because they are stacked at forward, but it’s another thing to act like bertuzzi isn’t good enough to warrant a 1st and bolduc. His talent is definitely worth that if he signed an extension.

He's never been in the playoffs and I don't want to find out he turns into a pumpkin when we actually need him. Plus he's a rental. If you really want max value, extend him and trade. Otherwise, I can't see the price being as high as many seem to think. He's not Giroux. He is however quite valuable to your team.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

It's a rental and for the price, not a good one.

For what you're asking, you ADD and add quite a bit.

We're not in that big a need for offensive talent that is untested in the playoffs.

We are, however, in need of strong LHD that can either slot top 4 or be a 1LHD, which is what your offer is heading towards. If you had one, we would add. Got any of those?

If not, there's no deal here and Army won't even look at it once, let alone twice.


He's never been in the playoffs and I don't want to find out he turns into a pumpkin when we actually need him. Plus he's a rental. If you really want max value, extend him and trade. Otherwise, I can't see the price being as high as many seem to think. He's not Giroux. He is however quite valuable to your team.

Again I said I said WITH an extension he is worth that, and I personally don’t care what we decide to do with him. If we trade him for a return like this I’m happy, if we keep him I’m happy as well. I’m just saying he’s a very good player.

 

[BlueSeal]

Again I said I said WITH an extension he is worth that, and I personally don’t care what we decide to do with him. If we trade him for a return like this I’m happy, if we keep him I’m happy as well. I’m just saying he’s a very good player.

Has he gotten vaccinated yet or would we be playing Canadian teams without him?

And how well has he recovered from back surgery? We got a dman who was never the same after this and we don't need to be repeating that.

 

[BlueSeal]

Who cares about Perunovich? He's not the meat of the deal.

Your 'deal' needs more meat.

You're proposing the Blues spend 3 of their top 5 futures (among two upcoming first round picks and three prospects) so they can add to the least needy area of the team. That's not smart management.

It is if they offer it to the Wings...

We sure as hell ain't, not on the OP's deal lol.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I don't know. I think the Blues pay the cost on this one.

 

[PocketNines]

I don't know. I think the Blues pay the cost on this one.

You're not sure, but you think when push comes to shove the Blues go all in spending their futures on a winger. Who has one year left. lol

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

You're not sure, but you think when push comes to shove the Blues go all in spending their futures on a winger. lol

It's all hypotheticals in this thread.

 

[PocketNines]

It's all hypotheticals in this thread.

They aren't going to spend 3 of their top 5 futures assets on a winger with one year left because the management in STL isn't either hypothetically or actually incompetent.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

They aren't going to spend 3 of their top 5 futures assets on a winger with one year left because the management in STL isn't either hypothetically or actually incompetent.

That's why I'm saying the proposal is lopsided against St. Louis.

 

[PocketNines]

That's why I'm saying the proposal is lopsided against St. Louis.

That's fine. The whole reason we engaged is "I think the Blues pay the cost on this one."

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

That's fine. The whole reason we engaged is "I think the Blues pay the cost on this one."

Well, that's what I meant. Detroit wins the deal easily.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

It's a rental and for the price, not a good one.

For what you're asking, you ADD and add quite a bit.

We're not in that big a need for offensive talent that is untested in the playoffs.

We are, however, in need of strong LHD that can either slot top 4 or be a 1LHD, which is what your offer is heading towards. If you had one, we would add. Got any of those?

If not, there's no deal here and Army won't even look at it once, let alone twice.

And if memory serves, he isn't vaccinated so he can't travel to Canada and play games there. If that's changed, I'd like to hear about it. If not, then we definitely wouldn't want him.


He's never been in the playoffs and I don't want to find out he turns into a pumpkin when we actually need him. Plus he's a rental. If you really want max value, extend him and trade. Otherwise, I can't see the price being as high as many seem to think. He's not Giroux. He is however quite valuable to your team.

It doesn’t really take seeing Bertuzzi in the playoffs to know he plays a style that will thrive there.

That’s the exact reason I have no interest in losing him.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

It doesn’t really take seeing Bertuzzi in the playoffs to know he plays a style that will thrive there.

That’s the exact reason I have no interest in losing him.

And futures are always in an uncertain phase, so you never know if they will become gems or busts.

 

[BleedBlue14]

If anyone happens to notice, Yzerman drafts big blueliners between 6'1" to 6;8" and Perunovich is 5'9" too small for Detroit's blueline pass.

This was Armstrong’s M.O. too. Game has changed a little bit. I don’t think guys are steering away from the highly skilled puck mover any more.


Blues simply cannot afford to add salary at the wing position. They also can’t afford to mortgage the future for a winger. This is a package I think the Blues could stomach losing for a guy like Chychrun who is a top 4 blue liner with a feasible cap hit and some years left. Like the player, would fit with the Blues, it just can’t work with how the team is already constructed

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I completely understand blues fans saying they wouldn’t wanna make a trade like this because they are stacked at forward, but it’s another thing to act like bertuzzi isn’t good enough to warrant a 1st and bolduc. His talent is definitely worth that if he signed an extension.

He may be worth it value wise, but he sure isn't worth it team needs-wise. If Blues are trading Bolduc/Neighbors+1st rounder we need to get a top pairing/top 4 lhd. And if we aren't getting that then it's not worth it.

 

[CitizenSnips]

I would say you can have 2 of the 4 pieces you are asking for

No thanks otherwise

 

[McJedi]

Bertuzzi
For
Perunovich
Bolduc
STL 1st in 22 or 23

STL gets a top line winger, and Detroit adds a PMD, elite prospect, and another 1st.

What do we think?

Why do the Blues need another top six winger? They’ve got like 7 already.

As an Avs fan that just watched the Blues over 12 games, that’s a team that needs to upgrade their defense. Esp with a puck mover.

 

[rumrokh]

Why do the Blues need another top six winger? They’ve got like 7 already.

As an Avs fan that just watched the Blues over 12 games, that’s a team that needs to upgrade their defense. Esp with a puck mover.

Missing Krug made a big difference in that area. They just need to upgrade overall D in whatever form it takes.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Blues aren't trading futures for a forward, and the Blues don't need another player who is going to be asking for a raise next summer, already have enough to deal with between ROR, Thomas, Kyrou, and Tarasenko.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

He may be worth it value wise, but he sure isn't worth it team needs-wise. If Blues are trading Bolduc/Neighbors+1st rounder we need to get a top pairing/top 4 lhd. And if we aren't getting that then it's not worth it.

Again completely understandable, I wouldn’t do that trade either if I was the blues GM. I was just saying people were acting like he was a scrub it seemed