Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] F Vladimir Tarasenko signs with the Red Wings (2 years, $4.75M AAV)

[innitfam]

Good signing but I'm still not sure what DRW plan is. They'll be nearly capped out once Raymond/Seider sign and they are painfully mid.

 

[Raistlin]

All the salt about Yzerman in these threads is always fun to read.

The Wings haven't had a top 3 pick since 1990. But keep coming with all the genius rebuilding ideas...

I think a lot of outside folks (myself included) had really high expectations of the yzerplan. it turning out to be kinda pedestrian with still no elite pieces is the issue. Random example, Vancouver never had a top 4 pick in 25 years and is now approaching contender category is not helping the 'stay patient' crowd either.

 

[tommyers19]

Florida fan here.. Tarensenko played amazing on that 3rd line on his natural side.. and struggled on the 1st line on left wing.. so as long as he's on the right side we'll do well.

Really wanted him back in Florida, wouldn't of won the cup without him.

Det has 20M left in capspace, hopefully they spend it well and should be back in the playoffs.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Will miss Tank, good luck in Detroit

 

[Run the Jewels]

I think a lot of outside folks (myself included) had really high expectations of the yzerplan. it turning out to be kinda pedestrian with still no elite pieces is the issue. Vancouver never had a top 4 pick in 25 years and is now approaching contender category is not helping the 'stay patient' crowd either.

When Yzerman arrived back in Detroit, the Red Wings had Dylan Larkin and pretty much nothing else. He was able to trade Anthony Mantha and Tyler Bertuzzi who are nice players but nothing special.

They now have one of the top prospect pools in the NHL, a #1 dman in Seider, a 1st line forward in Ray, and will be adding pieces every single season going forward. Edvinssson, Cossa, Sandin-Pelikka, Danielson, Kasper, Brandsegg-Nygaard could all be in the lineup as soon as 2025-26.

Yzerman is giving short term deals to legit NHL'ers to bide time until the prospects are ready.

 

[TheDoldrums]

All the salt about Yzerman in these threads is always fun to read.

The Wings haven't had a top 3 pick since 1990. But keep coming with all the genius rebuilding ideas...

“Salt” usually comes from some kind of bitterness, perhaps a jealousy of sorts. That really doesn’t describe the sentiment towards Yzerman or the Wings, this is just standard criticism.

 

[ZDH]

Yzerman can't win around here. Makes a zero risk move.

Hfboards-->

"What is Yzerman doing?"

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I think a lot of outside folks (myself included) had really high expectations of the yzerplan. it turning out to be kinda pedestrian with still no elite pieces is the issue. Random example, Vancouver never had a top 4 pick in 25 years and is now approaching contender category is not helping the 'stay patient' crowd either.

Holland left behind a lot of bad contracts and virtually no prospects. The Canucks hit with their higher picks like Horvat, McCann, Boeser, Petersson while Holland was busy drafting Zadina (picked one ahead of you know who), Rasmussen, Veleno, Cholowski.

Then when Detroit bottomed out for real, they got screwed in the lottery and dropped back to 4th in what wasn't a super strong year anyway. It was a deep, deep hole. Luckily they came away with Raymond and Seider.

It's not fun having the team be this bad for this long, but I'm glad Yzerman is avoiding the shiny new toy deals that turn out to be a nightmare, and I'm not sure what he could've done to make the team better faster. I'd rather they be competitive for several years then go nuts for a season and regress.

 

[norrisnick]

Good signing but I'm still not sure what DRW plan is. They'll be nearly capped out once Raymond/Seider sign and they are painfully mid.

Stay semi-respectable until the drafted kids are ready to take over. The last three offseason signings are basically all place-holders.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

What are the Wings trying to accomplish exactly?

Make the playoffs
?

 

[The Marquis]

I thought he was pretty weak in the SCF.

I always laugh at statements like this. The guy was playing in the Stanley Cup final. Having a "weak Stanley Cup final" says more positive about a player overall than negative. He made it there. The Red Wings almost certainly are not next year, but they aren't getting further from it by having Tank on the roster. Quite the contrary.

(the following isn't directed at the poster I'm quoting)

The worst player on the best club hockey team in the world is probably a pretty decent hockey player and is probably better than a good chunk of many NHL rosters. Tarasenko was far from the worst player on that Panthers team. I'm defending a player than I don't even like, because he's not nearly as bad as people are saying for this piddly small-time 2 year contract. He's 32, not 36. This is "at value".

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

He got a few goals in finals but I thought he was one of the worst skaters on ice for Panthers thru much of playoffs

Dont think he has much left in tank and will continue to slowdown/fade

Yeah he’s a guy who can provide like 50 points and not much else

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Stay semi-respectable until the drafted kids are ready to take over. The last three offseason signings are basically all place-holders.

Kane and Senko are basically placeholders, the best thing for Detroit that can happen is if Kasper/Danielson pop and become a very good 2C. Their season got torpedoed last year because of the Larkin injury, guys like Compher and Copp are fine but they're just there tbh lol

He got a few goals in finals but I thought he was one of the worst skaters on ice for Panthers thru much of playoffs

Dont think he has much left in tank and will continue to slowdown/fade

I disagree, he wasn't contributing but the guy was playing defense more than you saw in STL. He was actually blocking shots and doing the little things you should be doing if you aren't contributing offensively which is the Panthers model/players rubbing off on him. He'll be decent for Detroit but the issue is going from a top 9 to a top 6 role at his age isn't something that should be that lauded.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Good signing but I'm still not sure what DRW plan is. They'll be nearly capped out once Raymond/Seider sign and they are painfully mid.

Improve from within while having enough veteran talent to keep the floor high? Not sure what’s so hard to understand tbh.

 

[BB88]

Signing a 32 year old skilled player to a 2 year deal, who scored 55 points? Seems a good move. Low risk, and doesn't need to be the man. Can be moved up and down the line up. What's the downfall?

That roster just doesn’t have a high ceiling

Their goal seems to be just be in the race for playoffs and nothing more

 

[Schennanigans]

Not much risk here but also I bit much for him.

 

[ShanahanMan]

See you at the tradeline again Tank!

Dude we missed the playoffs by 1 point.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

That roster just doesn’t have a high ceiling

Their goal seems to be just be in the race for playoffs and nothing more

Yes that's precisely the plan. We have not made it since Datsyuk left in 2016

Tonnes of our best prospects haven't even his consistent NHL time yet too. This signing and the Fabbri offload are great steps forward. Need that Top 4D now. Fingers crossed

 

[Run the Jewels]

Dude we missed the playoffs by 1 point.

Stolen from @Henkka

NY Rangers additions at 2023 trade deadline:

- Patrick Kane
- Vladimir Tarasenko
- Tyler Motte

 

[Panthers Propaganda]

Looking forward to having him back at the deadline with 3mil retained.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

That roster just doesn’t have a high ceiling

Their goal seems to be just be in the race for playoffs and nothing more

Some of this has to do with their rotten draft lottery luck but they have gotten Seider/Raymond but if you're consistently falling you're probably not get the game breakers in the draft. That being said, they're at the point where that team needs to make the playoffs for management to feel good about themselves + the players they're building with too. It gives a bit of the 17-18 Devils vibes so I get what you're saying but who knows if MBN, Kasper, Danielson don't become the thing they sorely need in the top 6.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Yes that's precisely the plan. We have not made it since Datsyuk left in 2016

Tonnes of our best prospects haven't even his consistent NHL time yet too. This signing and the Fabbri offload are great steps forward. Need that Top 4D now. Fingers crossed

The Red Wings have improved every year since 2019-20 and missed the playoffs last year by 1 point due to a horrific goaltending room. Husso was injured, Reimer was washed, and Lyon was badly overextended.

I wouldn't be shocked if they improve once again and make the playoffs in 2024-25.

 

[The Red Line]

lmao at all the bitter people trying to spin this as a bad signing.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Sign and trade?

 

[Muffin]

So they paid a pick to get rid of Walman then turn around and give the money to Tarasenko? Yzerman has no idea what he's doing.