Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] F Joe Veleno re-signs with the Red Wings (2 years, $2.275M AAV)
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ManwithNoIdentity
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Meh player, meh deal.
Still don't get how Yzerman had to pay a 2nd to get out of Walman's deal.
Kane, Tarasenko... I really don't like the Wings offseason, now for a second year in a row.
Still don't get how Yzerman had to pay a 2nd to get out of Walman's deal.
Kane, Tarasenko... I really don't like the Wings offseason, now for a second year in a row.
JohanFranzenstein
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How possible do you think this is? I found Veleno took a noticeable step forward this year IMO.
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still trying to trust the yzerplan
JediOrderPizza
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He started well, fell off hard at the end when Larkin and Compher went down. Maybe can have a 40 pt season.
deca guard
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im thinking that holls 2x3.4 goes to sjs for a 7th now as the future consideration to give detroit more cap space
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Higher than most of us in Detroit were really projecting. It has always taken Joe a while to adjust to each level, I am just not sure there is much more offense there, hopefully he earns this.
deca guard
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I don't like it, too much.
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Detroit fans should probably let go of this developing into something at this point. I mean the league said you couldn’t do that anymore but it appears to be the same Ole boys club on this move to date.
If San Jose does something curious on the waiver wire out of camp is really all this could be and that seems dubious.
My highest thought at the time is they wouldn’t take who we wanted at the draft but then they immediately moved up…
deca guard
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i cant get over the thought that we should have gotten back a 2nd for walman plus kept the 2nd we shipped . but i guess yzerman figured it was a weak draft plus knew , like were seeinhg now , he was going to need the cap space
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He was always getting right around $2.1-$2.3 million. Too many competitive salaries out there for like players. Not sure how anyone thinks this is a bad contract. He’s exactly what he’s always been expected to be. A really good two-way player now, who’s better and better offensively every year, heading into his prime years. Will likely settle into being a very good 3C.
Detroit fans weren’t used to having to develop players in the NHL, like they had to do with both Veleno and Rasmussen. They both should’ve played a year or two more in the AHL, but were forced to play up, and now we’re gonna see if it pays off or not playing in the NHL those years. Very good chance, both players become very good, consistent NHLers over the next 6-8 years, as they head into their prime. Rasmussen already is a really good, versatile NHL player, who nobody should now be surprised, if he starts putting up bigger numbers. Whether from the wing or pivot. His hands are just to good not to, and big Cs take longer to develop and have the game slow down for them.
All Cs do, and both had to develop in the NHL playing with journeymen talent. Now the game has slowed down for them, and they have better players to play with then a couple of those past seasons. They didn’t have Tarasenko, Debrincat, Raymond and Kane to play with like Kasper and Danielson will have.
Very good bet when you’re looking at Detroit’s lineup a year from now, people will look at both contracts as steals. It’s a big year for both players.
Detroit fans weren’t used to having to develop players in the NHL, like they had to do with both Veleno and Rasmussen. They both should’ve played a year or two more in the AHL, but were forced to play up, and now we’re gonna see if it pays off or not playing in the NHL those years. Very good chance, both players become very good, consistent NHLers over the next 6-8 years, as they head into their prime. Rasmussen already is a really good, versatile NHL player, who nobody should now be surprised, if he starts putting up bigger numbers. Whether from the wing or pivot. His hands are just to good not to, and big Cs take longer to develop and have the game slow down for them.
All Cs do, and both had to develop in the NHL playing with journeymen talent. Now the game has slowed down for them, and they have better players to play with then a couple of those past seasons. They didn’t have Tarasenko, Debrincat, Raymond and Kane to play with like Kasper and Danielson will have.
Very good bet when you’re looking at Detroit’s lineup a year from now, people will look at both contracts as steals. It’s a big year for both players.
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Nice post. I mean really, the amount of thought and analysis that went into you typing that post out...I'm jealous.
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Everyone talks shit about Shane Wright; but wasn’t this guy 1st overall contention in his draft year? Too early to call him a bust?
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deca guard
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yzerman is building a culture based in work ethic and 100% commitment to the game . he will take guys of lesser talent if they fit his culture over more talented players . players like copp , rasmussen and veleno got the right stuff to go out there and be one of yzermans sled dogs for 98 games a year . jv dont have alot of offensive talent , but has wheels , is strong , and hustles , and is a center
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Meh signing that could work out a bit better if Veleno can take a big step forward rather than cement himself as a 4th liner over the next 2yrs.
By end of this deal, 2M will be the going rate for a solid 4C.
By end of this deal, 2M will be the going rate for a solid 4C.
stl76
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...and?
All due respect, but you're dreaming if you think SJ is going to take Holl of your hands without compensation.
deca guard
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do you know how to read ? the compensation is them getting a 2nd and walman for nothing . so they now owe detroit future considerations , as in taking on holls cap hit . as in detroit paid a 2nd and walman for sjs to eventually take holl
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DamonDRW
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Players like Copp, Ras, Veleno don't do the right stuff out there. You probably confuse them with players like Filppula and Cleary or going even further Draper and Maltby. Those were really character guys that tilted the ice in a right way.
