Confirmed Signing with Link: [DET] D Moritz Seider re-signs with Wings (7 years, $8.55M AAV)

[Ace]

A hot rookie year followed by a deep cliff brought on by usage he couldn't handle and rough defensive metrics…but there’s offensive luck and PP?

Man…Ristolainen’s are getting expensive.

 

[dgibb10]

Definitely different situations. I’m just being optimistic but im thinking $9mil AAV is the minimum for him on a long term deal

But even if you pay Dobson 9 mill, you still did better than Yzerman did on seider.

4x3+9x4=48 mill for 7 years post ELC on dobson
8.55x7=60 mill for 7 years post ELC on seider

 

[Nemesis Prime]

A hot rookie year followed by a deep cliff brought on by usage he couldn't handle and rough defensive metrics…but there’s offensive luck and PP?

Man…Ristolainen’s are getting expensive.

nice bait

 

[Preposterone]

Great deal. Hope the isles see this and can Keep Dobson under $9mill AAV

Didn’t Dobson just drop 70 last year?

 

[Curufinwe]

They'll probably let him make the playoffs first.

Most GMs would be fired after 5 years in charge and not one playoff berth.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Kid has never played a single NHL minute not as a #1D, never missed a game and is basically a unicorn among young D. Yeah I’m thinking this deal is good.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Most GMs would be fired after 5 years in charge and not one playoff berth.

Circumstances matter in most things in life…

I always enjoy the outside fanbases take on this. Yzerman is still very safe in large part because of the two guys he just locked in. The Ilitch family is pretty loyal to their management with both franchises they own.

 

[deca guard]

i think seiders a down to earth person that did red wing fans a favor by not being greedy . hes some where in top 10 league wide all 200' on d side of puck . and has lots more o as his partners have not enhanced his offence , wait til thor's horse 'gulfaxi' shows up on his left side and you'll see seiders offense go zoom

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

But even if you pay Dobson 9 mill, you still did better than Yzerman did on seider.

4x3+9x4=48 mill for 7 years post ELC on dobson
8.55x7=60 mill for 7 years post ELC on seider

I mean the difference between Seider and Dobson on their ELC years is pretty stark...

Year one and two aren't close. Three is where Dobson took off and even then he wasn't nearly as relied on defensively.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

A hot rookie year followed by a deep cliff brought on by usage he couldn't handle and rough defensive metrics…but there’s offensive luck and PP?

Man…Ristolainen’s are getting expensive.

Sometimes it's ok to just say you're not familiar at all with a player.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Most GMs would be fired after 5 years in charge and not one playoff berth.

Most GMs don't start with Anthony Mantha as the #2 in the organization and top prospects of Filip Zadina and Joe Veleno.

 

[CupofOil]

That's going to be a great deal the second half of the contract if not sooner.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Is this deal already a steal year one?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

That's going to be a great deal the second half of the contract if not sooner.

It's a great deal now, honestly.

They purposely nerfed his PP time signing Ghost and then gave him absurd assignments.

He may still get absurd assignments but hopefully Edvinsson can take some of the load... He's paired with Petry though.

 

[nowhereman]

I think every team in the league would have gladly given out this contract...

Seider should fire his agent

Outside of opting for a bridge deal, hoping to cash in even more in a few years, Seider isn't getting more than what he got here on a longterm deal. He's got a load of potential but really hasn't done anything to prove he's worth 10+, even though he's being paid like a top 10 defenseman already (and half of the 10 top highest paid defensemen are overpaid – see Doughty, Nurse, Werenski, Jones, etc.). This is a fair deal for both sides that has the potential to be very good for the Wings, if Seider improves, but it's not some sort of highway robbery.

 

[Oddbob]

A hot rookie year followed by a deep cliff brought on by usage he couldn't handle and rough defensive metrics…but there’s offensive luck and PP?

Man…Ristolainen’s are getting expensive.

Yikes. There was no cliff, what a dumb comment!

Most GMs would be fired after 5 years in charge and not one playoff berth.

No most GMs would not be fired after taking over a dumpster fire and no playoffs or #1-3 overall draft picks during that time.

 

[Slats432]

Great deal. Hope the isles see this and can Keep Dobson under $9mill AAV

I would expect it to be higher. Generally happens when you buy UFA years.

 

[The Red Line]

A hot rookie year followed by a deep cliff brought on by usage he couldn't handle and rough defensive metrics…but there’s offensive luck and PP?

Man…Ristolainen’s are getting expensive.

I absolutely LOVE how salty some folks get whenever Yzerman gets some praise, it’s one of my favorite parts of this deal tbh.

 

[crowi]

Great deal, congrats to Wings fans.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Outside of opting for a bridge deal, hoping to cash in even more in a few years, Seider isn't getting more than what he got here on a longterm deal. He's got a load of potential but really hasn't done anything to prove he's worth 10+, even though he's being paid like a top 10 defenseman already (and half of the 10 top highest paid defensemen are overpaid – see Doughty, Nurse, Werenski, Jones, etc.). This is a fair deal for both sides that has the potential to be very good for the Wings, if Seider improves, but it's not some sort of highway robbery.

"Being paid like he's a top 10 defenseman already"... Except he's not in the top 10 highest paid and he's even lower when you consider cap percentage...

 

[KevinRedkey]

Good deal for the Wings IMO

 

[Killer Orcas]

Wow that's a great deal considering a ,lot of people expected 10 plus per. Some nice work by Stevie Y on these two big deals he just got signed.

 

[dgibb10]

Wow that's a great deal considering a ,lot of people expected 10 plus per. Some nice work by Stevie Y on these two big deals he just got signed.

No pre arb RFA dman has ever even surpassed 9 mill, let alone 10. Edit: Reigning Norris winner Adam Fox got 9.5

 

[Sheppy]

Love the way this guy plays. This is going to be a very good contract going forward.

 

[Killer Orcas]

No pre arb RFA dman has ever even surpassed 9 mill, let alone 10.

Theres always a first and no one would have been shocked if he had signed 10 per for 8. He's a stud top pairing RHD that is a special player.