Despite Saros having a 3-7-1 record and a GAA of 2.85, his GSAE is 8th in the league.

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Damn are the Preds just this bad defensively this year?

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[AtlantaWhaler]

Preds bad

This is all that needs to be said.

 

[Regal]

Nashville’s expected goals against isn’t good, but it’s not worst in the league bad either. Part of this is Saros having a huge workload. Being slightly better than expected over a big workload adds up.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Adjustment phase.

 

[Soundgarden]

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Damn are the Preds just this bad defensively this year?

Yes. Schenn should have retired, Lauzon cares more about hitting people than playing defense, Carrier is pretty weak in his zone. Skjei has been hit or miss and Brunette has refused to even play Fabbro for the majority of the year.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

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Damn are the Preds just this bad defensively this year?

The answer is yes, but was that the desired effect?

 

[Devilsfan2326]

Yes. Schenn should have retired, Lauzon cares more about hitting people than playing defense, Carrier is pretty weak in his zone. Skjei has been hit or miss and Brunette has refused to even play Fabbro for the majority of the year.

No defensively oriented guys in the pipeline?

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

That stat means less than Jack shit to me. What the hell does that even mean?

 

[Romang67]

That stat means less than Jack shit to me. What the hell does that even mean?

It means he has 3 wins, 7 losses, and 1 overtime or shootout loss.

 

[Soundgarden]

No defensively oriented guys in the pipeline?

Gibson but it might be too early for him.

 

[Three On Zero]

That stat means less than Jack shit to me. What the hell does that even mean?

Just subjective advanced stats that different people have different criteria for. You’ll be better off not trying to understand the nonsense behind them

 

[Romang67]

Just subjective advanced stats that different people have different criteria for. You’ll be better off not trying to understand the nonsense behind them

It's just a statistical distribution of how often shots from certain locations result in goals. The difference between sites likely depends on factors like puck movement before the shot.

It's not rocket science.

 

[Three On Zero]

It's just a statistical distribution of how often shots from certain locations result in goals. The difference between sites likely depends on factors like puck movement before the shot.

It's not rocket science.

No, but like you already said. All it means is “It means he has 3 wins, 7 losses, and 1 overtime or shootout loss.”

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

It's just a statistical distribution of how often shots from certain locations result in goals. The difference between sites likely depends on factors like puck movement before the shot.

It's not rocket science.

The stats nerds gotta come up with better names for the fancy stuff. What you said makes sense.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Josi is pretty over rated or just old now, not sure which. Defensively not nearly good enough

 

[Soundgarden]

Josi is pretty over rated or just old now, not sure which. Defensively not nearly good enough

Lol, Josi has not been the problem, that's like saying Forsberg's washed up.

 

[Regal]

It's just a statistical distribution of how often shots from certain locations result in goals. The difference between sites likely depends on factors like puck movement before the shot.

It's not rocket science.

I think one thing in particular is how they calculate rebound and “flurry chances”. If a goalie is good at not giving up rebounds then he’s potentially limiting goals even if the chances don’t happen, and some sites account for this. Similarly, if multiple chances happen on the same sequence, there’s adjustment for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc chance due to the fact that if the first one had gone in, the others wouldn’t have happened, and I think this adjustment can vary from site to site as well.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Another example of how subjectively valuable/invaluable these advanced stats are. Saros is 22nd in SV% and 30th in GAA. With a small amount of context all that says to me is that he's not playing well and also playing on a struggling team.

For the life of me I don't get the value in these "above/below expected" stats and I think using them is not seeing the forest through the trees. Fundamentally they cannot account for the inherent dynamic activity that goes into every single puck possession, shot attempt, shot on net, pass, etc...

What does his 8th place ranking say to people who do like these stats? That he's actually a top 10 goalie playing on a bad team?

"IF HE'S A GOOD HITTER WHY DOESN'T HE HIT GOOD?"

 

[Devilsfan2326]

Gibson but it might be too early for him.

Maybe Trotz will shuffle around some guys? Try and form a more defensive type of line or pairing. My thinking is that this rebuild quote is mostly just an empty threat in an attempt to jumpstart his players.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Another example of how subjectively valuable/invaluable these advanced stats are. Saros is 22nd in SV% and 30th in GAA. With a small amount of context all that says to me is that he's not playing well and also playing on a struggling team.

For the life of me I don't get the value in these "above/below expected" stats and I think using them is not seeing the forest through the trees. Fundamentally they cannot account for the inherent dynamic activity that goes into every single puck possession, shot attempt, shot on net, pass, etc...

What does his 8th place ranking say to people who do like these stats? That he's actually a top 10 goalie playing on a bad team?

"IF HE'S A GOOD HITTER WHY DOESN'T HE HIT GOOD?"

Saros has proven in the past that he's clearly an elite goalie.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Saros has proven in the past that he's clearly an elite goalie.

We’re only talking about this season so far

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

We’re only talking about this season so far

He's always seemed to be a poor early season goalie, and it feels like it has gotten worse every season. Icing an ECHL caliber defense doesn't help either.