Derek Ryan spears Nils Hoglander in the nuts, how is this not a 5 minute major penalty for attempt to injure?

[swiftwin]

Just noted that if stuff like this can be done with little or no penalty/punishment why not just go berserk?

Surely this is a textbook 5 minute major + game misconduct.

Marchard level shit???

More like Draisaitl level shit.

More of a Lucic move than a Marchand move but a dirtbag move nonetheless.

Draisaitl move.

 

[LTIR]

Marchard level shit???

More like Draisaitl level shit.


Draisaitl move.

I must agree.. Draisaitl is THE nutcracker of NHL.
You better invest in some good jocks if you wanna mess with him. All around protection

 

[Skolman]

Love it, good s*** Ryan

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

No, Ryan moves his upwards into the groin of Hoglander. He would not have gotten the hit on the nuts without moving the blade of the stick upwards into the private area of Hoglander. That is not a slash! If thats not spearing with the blade then spearing with the blade does not exist and its in the rules, so it does exist!

Nevertheless if you on purpose go after someones nuts from behind in a cowardly manner then its a textbook 5 minute major, could be seen as attempt to injure and put a game misconduct on top of that!

I'm sure it's been covered, but it's conclusively a spear, nor is it even likely a spear. The shaft (lol) of Ryan's stick is what appears to make contact. The blade would be out in front. You'd be extremely hard pressed to call 5 minutes for this.

Still a scummy play, but you're misrepresenting the situation to argue for a more severe penalty. He got 2 (well...4), and that is what should have been called.

 

[Copenhagen91]

"Stabbing"

Thanks for providing the evidence that this was a slash.

It’s like talking to a brick wall at this point… ok there Mr. Simpson

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

When has spears in the nuts become a non issue?

The play before is irrelevant when it comes to the penalty for Ryan. Its a 5 on Ryan and a 2 on Hoglander.

Any other call is a mockery of the game and the actual rules the refs are supposed to rule by!

When Draisitl started doing it as Edmonton fans became ok with it.

 

[Coffey]

When Draisitl started doing it as Edmonton fans became ok with it.

Once they signed Lucic, he spread that secret move to the rest of the team like wildfire

 

[HugginThePost]

The Drai Special. Great mentor.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

As a neutral observer your whole collection of posts on this is way over the top. Penalty for sure, maybe 5, but intent to injure???? You come across like he gave him a two handed baseball swing over the head.

No, there is absolutely no hockey play for spearing a guy in the nuts. Guys like Marchand have unfortunately inured fans to these acts, but anything intentional like this should be a long suspension.

 

[Praetorian Caps]

Wow, I didn't see that until the highlights . The Oilers and Canucks have the fiercest rivalry right now.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

It's always a little strange to me how tolerant the league and players are to jabbing another guy in the nards.

Right!? Like, that’s a punk-ass wuss move in a street fight, and yet the league is like “nah that’s fine.”

 

[Spawn]

2 min minor for slashing earned. As was Hoglanders 2 min for cross checking moments earlier that the homer Canuck fan conveniently who cut the clip left out

 

[Tobias Kahun]

It’s like talking to a brick wall at this point… ok there Mr. Simpson

Because no one else understands the difference between a slash and a spear?

 

[JAK]

Had Ryan went by and slashed Hoglander in the legs, I bet most Canucks and neutral fans wouldn't have an issue.

The purpose and the act of the spear itself is the issue, it just doesn't belong in the game.

 

[Mattb124]

Because no one else understands the difference between a slash and a spear?

The NHL refs apparently do, as slashing is what was called on the ice.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Had Ryan went by and slashed Hoglander in the legs, I bet most Canucks and neutral fans wouldn't have an issue.

The purpose and the act of the spear itself is the issue, it just doesn't belong in the game.

Agreed, it doesnt.

Thats why it was a 2 minute penalty.

 

[joestevens29]

Don’t think hog has nuts. Would’ve been down longer if he did

If I had a knife and put in under your ass, and then quickly lifted the knife up with force in your ass, would you call it a stab or slash?

Spent some time in jail?

 

[TheUnusedCrayon]

The NHL refs apparently do, as slashing is what was called on the ice.

Welcome to the subject of the thread. Nice to have you catch up.

If you need additional information as to why the thread was created, I'll provide the following to get you fully up to speed:

The refs didn't want to call a major on the play and eject Ryan to manage the game, despite the rulebook indicating to do as such for this particular action. They do this sometimes in the NHL. OP thinks this is unacceptable as it goes against the rulebook and the way that referees have called it in the past (despite no wording changes to this rule for a long time, if ever). Based on his writing and my reading comprehension, he deems this behaviour from the referees as intolerable as it does nothing good for the game and only promotes further actions from reoccurring.

 

[oilexport]

That play was mice nuts. The guy put his butt in our players way. Man up to it ! Separate the men, from the boys. Give it to him harder next game ! Wimps ! Lol

 

[Mez]

Pretty sublime nut job there...he's been leveling his stealth skill. Obviously should have been 2 min...which it was.

 

[ManofSteel55]

So a lot of people still don't understand spearing vs slashing. Not condoning it as it was dirty either way, but that's not a spear. It's a slash.

 

[Not Canada Drai]

Probably deserved a fine but he got a favourable spin of the wheel.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Discussions about penalties and refs for this specific series should just be automatically deleted. Nothing good will come of them.



Case and point.

The idiom is “case in point”.

 

[TheNumber4]

2 mins for Hoglander. Holding the stick with his butt crack.

 

[North Cole]

The lengths people go on this board to defend dangerous cowardly violence that have no place in hockey is puzzling, I just dont understand why it has to be defended.

How hard could it be for an Oilers fan to just hold up their hand and say "that was a shitty gutless play and deserved a 5 minute penalty" instead of trying to convince us that Hoglander almost crushed the ribs of the Ryan by softly pushing him! (it was so soft the refs called it interference and not crosschecking or roughing)

The problem with your overly exclamated diatribes is that you aren't on any morale high ground when you post garbage hoping for other players to get illegally destroyed in retaliation.

Hopefully they forget the rule book when some one destroys McDavid, perhaps thats the only way to make sure people care about cheap shots!

It's like...'yeah how hard is it for fans of X team to just admit that the player did some retaliatory dumbassery and deserved a major. I really hope when their player gets rekt illegally in further retaliation for this retaliatory act of violence, we also forget the rule book' (also add 500 exclamation points for no reason)

What an unhinged sentiment.