Proposal: Demko or Lankinen(+?) for Mercer or Sillinger

Devils gave up a lot already to get Markstrom, who is signed through next season. He would have to either have a season-ending injury next year or completely implode for NJ trade for another starter next season.
 
Maybe read what the op posted then.

The parameters the op said would be ideally at the tdl if Demko is proven to be healthy and playing as a top 5-10 goalie

So where in those parameters is Demko not healthy again?
Of course Demko would have value if healthy. He isn’t healthy though and hasn’t been for a full year.
 
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Demko is damaged goods atm - rather doubt he gets you more than a 3rd round pick. At that price I would rather keep him for the year and hope he stays healthy as when he's on he's typically a top 5 goalie league wide.
 
Maybe read what the op posted then.

The parameters the op said would be ideally at the tdl if Demko is proven to be healthy and playing as a top 5-10 goalie

So where in those parameters is Demko not healthy again?

A healthy Demko playing as a top 5-10 goalie would mean that Vancouver would almost assuredly be in a playoff spot (or at least battling for one) by next year's TDL, so there's no way they'd move him - especially with Quinn Hughes eligible to sign an extension next offseason.
 
Of course Demko would have value if healthy. He isn’t healthy though and hasn’t been for a full year.
Are you from the future that you know 100% Demko won’t be healthy by the trade deadline next year? Or are you stuck on the fact that as of today he is not healthy?

If it’s the latter, there’s no point in replying any further to you because you then clearly can’t comprehend that the OP is talking about a making this deal 10 months from now around a potential scenario.

I swear half of hfboards members come onto a fantasy proposal board and then refuse to discuss fantasy future scenarios and have to live in the reality of today as if any of this is real.
 
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Idk why it’s so hard for you to look into a future 10 months down the road of if he’s healthy and back to his top 5-10 form.

Yes he’s not healthy today, but the op clearly states this is looking into a potential future at the tdl with those parameters.

I swear half of hfboards members come onto a fantasy proposal board and then refuse to discuss fantasy future scenarios and have to live in reality as if any of this is real.
“If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then everyone would have a merry Christmas.”
In the real world Demko hasn’t been healthy for a more than a year. He’s a UFA July 1, 2026.
And if Demko does magically get healthy and is playing well, what are the chances Van would trade him at the 2026 TDL? Imo they wouldn’t trade him, because a healthy Demko equals playoffs. And we know Van doesn’t trade their top coming UFAs at the TDL if they’re in the playoff hunt.
 
“If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then everyone would have a merry Christmas.”
In the real world Demko hasn’t been healthy for a more than a year. He’s a UFA July 1, 2026.
And if Demko does magically get healthy and is playing well, what are the chances Van would trade him at the 2026 TDL? Imo they wouldn’t trade him, because a healthy Demko equals playoffs. And we know Van doesn’t trade their top coming UFAs at the TDL if they’re in the playoff hunt.
Still stuck in reality and can’t fully let go of that to discuss a fantasy proposal about a fantasy 10 months from now.

At least you somewhat are getting that concept now though.

Yes IF the parameters were to come true that the op set, you’re right the Canucks would not trade Demko. If for some reason they did, he would cost a lot more than Mercer, which is what I said.

Glad you could stop being so dense. Now we can go our separate ways
 
Present day NJD and injuries to main roster pieces isn’t a match that should continue happening. Adding in Demko, knowing he’ll be out by November is just a stupid move.
 
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Demko and Lankinen will be a tandem because Demko is not reliable enough to be a number 1 starter due to his injuries. Lankinen is great as a backup but would be average as a starter. Both would be perfect as a 1A and 1B tandem. Demko can play 41 games so he doesn't get injured. Lankinen can easily play 41 games so he doesn't get overwhelmed playing more games. Then we have Tolopilo and Silovs as call ups. Canucks are set in goal.
 
Demko is getting traded to Carolina. Doesn’t everyone know this?
Canucks won't trade Demko, because they need him for the important or tough matchups. He is still an elite goal, better than Lankinen even if he is injury prone. We won't just trade him for a bag of pucks.
 
Devils gave up a lot already to get Markstrom, who is signed through next season. He would have to either have a season-ending injury next year or completely implode for NJ trade for another starter next season.
Yeah, imagine Demko playing with Markstrom again :help: The whole reason Canucks got rid of Markstrom was due to emergence of Demko. So don't see how they both share the net again. Also why would NJD trade for another goalie who is also not able to play as a starter due to health reasons?? The best situation for Demko will be staying with Canucks who have a great backup in Lankinen signed long term where they can split duties. Its beneficial for Canucks having 2 capable goalies, beneficial for Demko who needs to play less and beneficial for Lankinen who should not be given a starter role yet since he gets overwhelmed playing too many games as a starter.
 
Is that ever going to be the case though? I just don’t think that’s the reality.
Yep, I don't see it. He has been injured or sick 4 to 5 times already just this season. Either back spasm, groin, flu etc. Last season he missed a chunk of game, then missed playoffs. This season he missed more than half the regular season. Who knows how many games he will play next season. I don't see any team trying to get him as someone who will be their only number 1 goalie due to health issues and his age will just make him more prone to injuries. He won't be getting number 1 goalie money and might just re-sign at 6 million long term. If I was Canucks, I would re-sign him and made sure the goaltending position is set for the next 5 years with Demko and Lankinen tandem.
 
sure, if demko can return to form (not sure that's doable by the TDL), he'd probably land you a 2C. i'd still expect the canucks to have to add to the package to snag either of these or a 2C of worth. goalies just don't have that kind of value to be 1:1 swapped for other roster players.

the plus with lankinen would have be significant, he's likely a back up or 1B at best in any trade scenario to the team seeking him and you don't give up a 2C for that role
 
Maybe read what the op posted then.

The parameters the op said would be ideally at the tdl if Demko is proven to be healthy and playing as a top 5-10 goalie

So where in those parameters is Demko not healthy again?
it's pretty rosy to think 30ish starts is enough for teams to feel comfortable he's durable enough. perhaps a team in great need would be willing to jump in, but for most i'd think they'd want to see him handle a starter's load for a full season before treating him like's got top goalie value again. he's only done that twice in the past five years, so there's ample room to doubt short samples here.
 
Hasn't it essentially been said that Demko's injury can't be fixed and he'll have to learn to play with it...

Yeah, I was going to dig up that quote to include with my original response…I decided it wasn’t worth the effort lol. I think it’s common enough knowledge at this point
 
Hasn't it essentially been said that Demko's injury can't be fixed and he'll have to learn to play with it...
He was named 2nd star of the week award prior to his most recent injury setback so he was showing the ability to play up to his prior level, albeit briefly. He has also said a lot of his injury troubles this year are a result of an entire offseason not being able to train properly. Regardless, I don’t think the Canucks will look to move him as his value won’t even begin to approach the level of his potential impact next season.

 
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He was named 2nd star of the week award prior to his most recent injury setback so he was showing the ability to play up to his prior level, albeit briefly. He has also said a lot of his injury troubles this year are a result of an entire offseason not being able to train properly. Regardless, I don’t think the Canucks will look to move him as his value won’t even begin to approach the level of his potential impact next season.


That's good. But star of the week means you strung a couple good games together.

Teams want to see way more than that for a guy with a career changing injury. Especially a lower body injury for a goalie. And as you noted, he had a setback right after that.

Sadly for him and for Vancouver, his value is greatly diminished by his injury and that wont change without a couple seasons of good play without any significant setbacks.
 
That's good. But star of the week means you strung a couple good games together.

Teams want to see way more than that for a guy with a career changing injury. Especially a lower body injury for a goalie. And as you noted, he had a setback right after that.

Sadly for him and for Vancouver, his value is greatly diminished by his injury and that wont change without a couple seasons of good play without any significant setbacks.
Good. Maybe he can rebound next season and Vancouver can sign him to a great deal then.
 

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