Post-Game Talk: Dec 2.: Cup vs Ducks

[Calicaps]

Because it is true. Some here keep defending certain players. Everyone here dumps on Burakovsky but a player like Eller has been just as bad. He makes several bad plays every game. He makes a lot of selfish plays too and he gets a free pass.
Niskanen gets that treatment here too. The pairing of Orlov and Niskanen has been very bad all year and Niskanen is just as guilty. One thing I noticed was when they were separated Orlov actually elevated his game but Niskanen did not.
I dont care if members here call out a player that deserves it but don't call out one guy and protect the next player that us playing just as bad.
Everyone knows Burakovsky and Orlov are playing well but Eller and Niskanen are right there with them.

It may be true, but it's not the point. You have an opinion about a player, and someone else--even several someones--has a different opinion. You're both (all) entitled to them, and attacking people for having a different opinion is ridiculous.

 

[Calicaps]

Kuzy was carrying a lot of load in the time Wilson was out. And the power play.

I am thinking that Niskanen is still recovering from the playoffs. Might be Orlov is trying to over compensate. Just a guess

I've been thinking Nisky is struggling to fill the Orpik void a bit. He's not strong in the crease, but has had to do more of that duty, and he's not doing it well.

 

[Foots]

They are due for a loss but not this kind of a loss.

 

[maacoshark]

It may be true, but it's not the point. You have an opinion about a player, and someone else--even several someones--has a different opinion. You're both (all) entitled to them, and attacking people for having a different opinion is ridiculous.

My point is that anyone that is ripping players like Burakovsky and Orlov and giving Eller and Niskanen a free pass is being hypocritical. Eller and Niskanen should be thrown under the same bus as those other guys. How do you not understand this concept?

 

[Calicaps]

My point is that anyone that is ripping players like Burakovsky and Orlov and giving Eller and Niskanen a free pass is being hypocritical. Eller and Niskanen should be thrown under the same bus as those other guys. How do you not understand this concept?

I do understand. But again, they're entitled to their opinion EVEN if you think it's wrong and hypocritical and you should keep your opinions about other posters to yourself. How do you not understand that?

 

[Sam Spade]

Reirdon said it best just now, it wasn't anything the Ducks did as much as things the Caps didn't do and the things they messed up are correctable mistakes.

 

[traparatus]

I had to log back in to give you a virtual slap!

I know, I know. It's not going to be a very popular opinion and it was a sick goal that Kuznetsov scored this game.

I gotta call it like I see it.

 

[Calicaps]

I know, I know. It's not going to be a very popular opinion and it was a sick goal that Kuznetsov scored this game.

I gotta call it like I see it.

I tend to agree. I think Kuzy is coasting too much so far this season, but this was just his second game back so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt going forward.

 

[Sam Spade]

I tend to agree. I think Kuzy is coasting too much so far this season, but this was just his second game back so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt going forward.

20 games 24 points = Kuzy coasting.

 

[maacoshark]

I do understand. But again, they're entitled to their opinion EVEN if you think it's wrong and hypocritical and you should keep your opinions about other posters to yourself. How do you not understand that?

Hmmmm I dont remember mentioning any particular poster. Yet it happens to me all the time and when I ask to not be mentioned by name in a post I get attacked for that.
And you call me the hypocrite? Do your homework before making comments like that.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

I know, I know. It's not going to be a very popular opinion and it was a sick goal that Kuznetsov scored this game.

I gotta call it like I see it.

I read it like you were saying they're better off without Kuz and indirectly blamed him for the loss. No?

 

[traparatus]

I read it like you were saying they're better off without Kuz and indirectly blamed him for the loss. No?

I think Kuznetsov's play on Anaheim's 3rd goal buried us today. The team was on their heels and he attempted a needless neutral zone play that had a 0.01% chance of success. It's a selfish play and it's not how our team wins hockey games. Not everything is about goals and assists.

I'm also sick of his offensive zone penalties. Orlov's penalties I can understand. You want to win a board battle so bad that you go a step too far. This BS offensive zone hooking/tripping/holding is the most selfish play in hockey.

Obviously, we are a much-much better team with Kuznetsov in the line up and playing well.

 

[peterthegreat12]

The teams defensive structure sure looked a lot better while Kuzy was out. Take that how you will.

 

[Capsman]

Eh, this could be the type of game to get it out of their system and not let it repeat, or it could be the beginning of a bad stretch. We’ll see what they’re made of.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Does Orlov have any trade value?

Do you have any trade value?! Silly notion to even think of trading Orlov...

 

[Bladerunner]

It's not even the worst regular season game THIS season.

I'd have to look at past game results.

Which one was worse than this debacle

 

[Empty Goal Net]

Go on....What notes?

The usual GM stuff, like:
- Which gaps if any need filling before TDL.
- Whether (and how much) to offer guys like Cono after their contracts expire.

 

[TRASHCAT]

I'd have to look at past game results.

Which one was worse than this debacle

Devils game easily

 

[chilimac]

The teams defensive structure sure looked a lot better while Kuzy was out. Take that how you will.

thats an interesting perspective, i'm going to think about that for a while.

 

[SherVaughn30]

The game was not entertaining. It was bad. People are going to say this was a good offensive game but that just isnt the case. It was very poorly played. Terrible defense and mediocre goaltending and undisciplined penalties. Very sloppy game.

There were signs of this in Friday's game against the Devils. Against the Ducks the Caps got burned because the Ducks are a much better team than the Devils.

 

[SherVaughn30]

thats an interesting perspective, i'm going to think about that for a while.

Kuzy's defensive game is still a work in progress. Remember Ovi's defensive game was non existent in his earlier years and he learned later on that 200 foot games win you a Cup.

 

[txpd]

The usual GM stuff, like:
- Which gaps if any need filling before TDL.
- Whether (and how much) to offer guys like Cono after their contracts expire.

Ok...so, you think a game like that is more revealing than the 7 straight wins and 8 of 9 that came before it?

 

[Bladerunner]

Devils game easily

Was that the October 6-0 blowout loss? OK that's bad, but at some (early) point you knew they were going to lose.

However to be up 4 is statistically nearly a lock win in the NHL. Didn't even get an OTL point. That was a 4 point swing, good that it wasn't vs. an EC or even worse a Metro team.

Hope they get a wake up call from this one and move on.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

The teams defensive structure sure looked a lot better while Kuzy was out. Take that how you will.

You mean because they lost Kuz and Oshie and knew they had to get it right and get it tight or end up on the bottom of the Metro so they started playing lights out?

 

[txpd]

The teams defensive structure sure looked a lot better while Kuzy was out. Take that how you will.

You think so? Who is on his wings right now and which of them is considered strong defensively?