Debrincat vs Fiala

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Two big winners that were traded this offseason for relatively similar returns (Debrincat returned a higher pack, but Fiala also returned a good prospect).

Who'd you rather have on your team?

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[Minnesota]

I’m a fan of Fiala, but I voted Debrincat as the better player today.

If Fiala can have another PPG season, that would solidify him in my mind as the better player.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I love Fiala - really wanted him on the Sens in the summer but it‘s Cat here.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I’m a fan of Fiala, but I voted Debrincat as the better player today.

If Fiala can have another PPG season, that would solidify him in my mind as the better player.

One good thing about Fiala having a better season than Debrincat is Debrincat would be asinine to demand more than $1.25mill more than Fiala on his new contract.

 

[mapleleafslaughssame]

I’m gonna take Fiala but I feel Debrincat could still change that maybe even this year.

Gonna vote faila.

 

[RapidKnight]

Fiala was more productive despite 3 fewer minutes per game over 3 seasons and he’s on an upward trajectory. What’s the argument for DeBrincat? Fiala has him beat on goals per minute.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Fiala isnt as consistent as DeBrincat. Easily the Cat for now but Fiala has massive potential and could surpass him this year.

 

[FrankSidebottom]

Cat played with Kane both on PP and ES, while Fiala never was on the Kaprizov’s line, but over last two seasons he managed to put up comparable points. Cat’s performance without the HOF winger is yet to be seen

 

[jbeck5]

Cat played with Kane both on PP and ES, while Fiala never was on the Kaprizov’s line, but over last two seasons he managed to put up comparable points. Cat’s performance without the HOF winger is yet to be seen

I mean...have you watched his last 2-3 games? Debrincat had a snipe yesterday...a couple snipes the game before. He's being set up by Giroux and stutzle right and left and center. He's getting lots of looks. His total quality of linemates will go up this year.

 

[FrankSidebottom]

I mean...have you watched his last 2-3 games? Debrincat had a snipe yesterday...a couple snipes the game before. He's being set up by Giroux and stutzle right and left and center. He's getting lots of looks. His total quality of linemates will go up this year.

Preseason games mean nothing and none of the Ottawa players is particularly close to Kane nor Chabot’s offence is better than Jones’

 

[jbeck5]

Preseason games mean nothing and none of the Ottawa players is particularly close to Kane nor Chabot’s offence is better than Jones’

There's 5 guys on the ice and you play significant minutes with 10 or so players over the course of the season and that improved big time. His average 4 linemates on the ice at any time has improved significantly.

Giroux and stutzle may not be better than Kane individually, but together might be better as a line than Kane plus whoever was third wheel on that line.

I guess we'll see.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Preseason games mean nothing and none of the Ottawa players is particularly close to Kane nor Chabot’s offence is better than Jones’

Kane is actually one of the worst players in the league in purely generating chances, he's just that gifted offensively. Debrincat's style thrives playing with players that generate a ton of chances like Giroux and Stutzle.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Cat

 

[bsu]

Cat

 

[FrankSidebottom]

Kane is actually one of the worst players in the league in purely generating chances, he's just that gifted offensively. Debrincat's style thrives playing with players that generate a ton of chances like Giroux and Stutzle.

Not a fan of Kane/Chicago, but any offense-related metric/stat having Kane not near the top, let alone putting him at the bottom, is a complete BS

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Not a fan of Kane/Chicago, but any offense-related metric/stat having Kane not near the top, let alone putting him at the bottom, is a complete BS

Kane is an elite finisher, but he doesn't actually produce that many quality chances.

 

[FrankSidebottom]

Kane is an elite finisher, but he doesn't actually produce that many quality chances.

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How is that “many quality chances” quantified? Does he year by year make his scrub C and sometimes scrub LW to score every single “quality” chance from him or something? Because otherwise he wouldn’t be a Top 10 and usually Top 5 guy in assists. That’s ridiculous. Even if you generate “few chances”, then who cares if you anyway is good enough for 50-60 assists?

 

[FrankSidebottom]

I mean, Panarin proved that he’s a superstar in his own right without Kane. Cat may prove as well, but it’s still TBD

 

[Boud]

I'm a big Fiala fan and even though I'm a Sens fan I would l've take either this offseason. Now, I guess we'll see what happens this year.

Fiala plays a bit more flashier game and olds onto the puck more, Debrincat seems more reliable and complete as a player.

 

[JaegerDice]

How is that “many quality chances” quantified? Does he year by year make his scrub C and sometimes scrub LW to score every single “quality” chance from him or something? Because otherwise he wouldn’t be a Top 10 and usually Top 5 guy in assists. That’s ridiculous. Even if you generate “few chances”, then who cares if you anyway is good enough for 50-60 assists?

He's generally out-chanced and out-produced whenever he's on the ice.

He's gifted enough to consistently out-perform his own individual expected goal share, but the team as a whole suffers when he's on the ice. That's why the Blackhawks, when they were at their best, heavily sheltered him.

I'm not sure Debrincat is better than Fiala, but I do know as a Blackhawks fan, Cat was carrying Kane for the majority of last season, not vice versa.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Debrincat, but it's not like Fiala is chopped liver. I wanted him in Ottawa pretty bad before we got DBC.

 

[jetsforever]

DeBrincat for now

 

[playasRus]

Contract wise, LAK also have Fiala at a reasonable contract. Ottawa may have to give up Debrincat because he out prices himself from their salary cap constraints.

 

[Breakers]

Fiala was more productive despite 3 fewer minutes per game over 3 seasons and he’s on an upward trajectory. What’s the argument for DeBrincat? Fiala has him beat on goals per minute.

No he doesnt

 

[RapidKnight]

No he doesnt

Yes he does. 1.39 > 1.37 goals per 60 (over 3 seasons)