Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[schwang26]

I agree. Comparing Lane with Reinbacher is a little like comparing apples and oranges just because they play is so different.

I think just because of size, Reinbacher could be the more complete guy, but he’ll need to show more offence.

 

[Zilo44]

I honestly haven’t seen anything to show Reinbacher is the best of the 3. Not that I dislike him, but I think it’s too close to call that. Each of the 3 brings something different. Hutson is definitely more dynamic and not as bad in his own end as I thought he’d be for a small guy just starting.

Gotta keep in mind Reinbacher is the youngest too

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I think just because of size, Reinbacher could be the more complete guy, but he’ll need to show more offence.

I would compare with Markov to make my point. The very first quality of a D is playing D in his own end. It starts there. We all talk about how Markov was a general on PP and offense in general. Right, good. But he was also excellent in defense. Let's say Marky was bad in his own end and excellent in offense, would we put him on a pedestal? Probably not. We would say he was an excellent one dimentional player.

My believing is Reinbacher will probably become one of the best defensive D of his generation and that already makes him a very valuable player. I'm sure he will bring something signifiant in offense, that's something he will developp. This is like a good sound system or a sunroof in a car. It's nice if you have it but the most important is the engine and the good mechanic.

So, Reinbacher should become the most valuable D of the 3.

 

[dcyhabs]

I would compare with Markov to make my point. The very first quality of a D is playing D in his own end. It starts there. We all talk about how Markov was a general on PP and offense in general. Right, good. But he was also excellent in defense. Let's say Marky was bad in his own end and excellent in offense, would we put him on a pedestal? Probably not. We would say he was an excellent one dimentional player.

My believing is Reinbacher will probably become one of the best defensive D of his generation and that already makes him a very valuable player. I'm sure he will bring something signifiant in offense, that's something he will developp. This is like a good sound system or a sunroof in a car. It's nice if you have it but the most important is the engine and the good mechanic.

So, Reinbacher should become the most valuable D of the 3.

Markov started out putting up a lot of points and letting mediocre players deke and score on a pairing with Brisebois. He focused more on D as time went on, and got a lot of coaching. I remember stories that he was reluctant to change in ways the coaching staff wanted until he started seeing the benefits. He worked out his game.

Hutson's defensive issues are more physical. Markov wasn't huge but players overall weren't as big, either, so he wasn't at a huge disadvantage. We'll see how coachable Hutson is, how good the current habs coaches are, and whether he can deal with the size difference. He looked great on offense with the habs, but they were often hemmed in their zone when he was on, and he ended up -2 in spite of putting up points. He has a lot of time to work out his defensive game, but he's got a long way to go to be a playoff asset.

I was surprised at how good Mailloux looks. I haven't seen enough of Reinbacher to say anything about him. As a higher pick and a bigger, more responsible player, I expect he has a higher floor than the other two.

 

[Rapala]

I think just because of size, Reinbacher could be the more complete guy, but he’ll need to show more offence.

I think the thing Reinbacher has to do is become a rock defensively. That in itself will lend to better stats at the other end of the rink.
It's going to have to start with not getting beat to the outside and not letting players get behind him.
I think most of the other aspects of his game are fairly solid. We drafted this guy to be shut down.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I think the thing Reinbacher has to do is become a rock defensively. That in itself will lend to better stats at the other end of the rink.
It's going to have to start with not getting beat to the outside and not letting players get behind him.
I think most of the other aspects of his game are fairly solid. We drafted this guy to be shut down.

It’s really the only defensive flaw I can see. SHOULD be an easy fix. He’s made plenty of beautiful effortless D plays against grown men.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Markov started out putting up a lot of points and letting mediocre players deke and score on a pairing with Brisebois. He focused more on D as time went on, and got a lot of coaching. I remember stories that he was reluctant to change in ways the coaching staff wanted until he started seeing the benefits. He worked out his game.

Hutson's defensive issues are more physical. Markov wasn't huge but players overall weren't as big, either, so he wasn't at a huge disadvantage. We'll see how coachable Hutson is, how good the current habs coaches are, and whether he can deal with the size difference. He looked great on offense with the habs, but they were often hemmed in their zone when he was on, and he ended up -2 in spite of putting up points. He has a lot of time to work out his defensive game, but he's got a long way to go to be a playoff asset.

I was surprised at how good Mailloux looks. I haven't seen enough of Reinbacher to say anything about him. As a higher pick and a bigger, more responsible player, I expect he has a higher floor than the other two.

Mailloux is quite a big guy in a good shape. He'll become a very good d in future, he have the complete set of tools. I wonder if he could top Reinbacher or Ghule. I think he will be the third best. Or it's Hutson. They both can improve.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Markov started out putting up a lot of points and letting mediocre players deke and score on a pairing with Brisebois. He focused more on D as time went on, and got a lot of coaching. I remember stories that he was reluctant to change in ways the coaching staff wanted until he started seeing the benefits. He worked out his game.

Hutson's defensive issues are more physical. Markov wasn't huge but players overall weren't as big, either, so he wasn't at a huge disadvantage. We'll see how coachable Hutson is, how good the current habs coaches are, and whether he can deal with the size difference. He looked great on offense with the habs, but they were often hemmed in their zone when he was on, and he ended up -2 in spite of putting up points. He has a lot of time to work out his defensive game, but he's got a long way to go to be a playoff asset.

I was surprised at how good Mailloux looks. I haven't seen enough of Reinbacher to say anything about him. As a higher pick and a bigger, more responsible player, I expect he has a higher floor than the other two.

Reinbacher is an excellent skater, always balanced, he can do 360 degres both sides, he can roll making a check at high speed. He's freaky fast, a tall huge body with tons of skills and hockey IQ.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Still feel the same way after watching Hutson and Mailloux play this past week? Reinbacher is the best talent of the three and probably most NHL ready. I'd bet a lot of money he makes the team next year.

He was drafted the highest of the three yes. Doesn’t mean he’s better.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He was drafted the highest of the three yes. Doesn’t mean he’s better.

He's the most "defenseman" of the three. If 3 of them developp into their ceilings, Rein's ceiling will be the highest. He will be the most effective D to catch and pinn on the boards opposite forwards. His skating + size + footspeed will make him an elite defensive D.

 

[Mudz]

He was drafted the highest of the three yes. Doesn’t mean he’s better.

But he looks like it

 

[26Mats]

Still feel the same way after watching Hutson and Mailloux play this past week? Reinbacher is the best talent of the three and probably most NHL ready. I'd bet a lot of money he makes the team next year.

My preliminary take (we'll see at camp):

- Even if Reinbacher is the better overall Dman than Hutson and Mailloux, Hutson brings something the team sorely needs: someone other than Matheson that can create offense. So Hutson will have a spot for sure.
- Whether Reinbacher will earn a spot will not only depend on whether he's NHL ready, but also the situation with the other D. Hughes is an asset manager. He may trade other D away to make room for Reinbacher. But he won't give them away. And so, Reinbacher could spend time developing in Laval while Hughes makes a trade. That's what would have happened with Primeau if Primeau didn't have to go through waivers, as Reinbacher doesn't.

But he looks like it

Hutson brings something special. I have to see more to see who adds more overall.

 

[Habricot]

It’s easier to bring in a young winger and let him work it out like Slaf then a defenseman. Reinbacher won’t make the team unless they think he’s truly ready.

Expectation will be higher on the team next year. Unless he can really hold his own he will not be in the NHL.

 

[Habricot]

I honestly haven’t seen anything to show Reinbacher is the best of the 3. Not that I dislike him, but I think it’s too close to call that. Each of the 3 brings something different. Hutson is definitely more dynamic and not as bad in his own end as I thought he’d be for a small guy just starting.

Lets not neglect he is the youngest of the three.

 

[Tyson]

I trust Hughes will not rush Reinbacher as he should play a full season in Laval next year. There is no need to expedite bringing him up.

 

[Prairie Habs]

I trust Hughes will not rush Reinbacher as he should play a full season in Laval next year. There is no need to expedite bringing him up.

People said the same thing about slaf and he developed just fine in the big league. Reinbacher will play wherever they see fit.

 

[Tyson]

People said the same thing about slaf and he developed just fine in the big league. Reinbacher will play wherever they see fit.

There is a difference- Habs have a logjam of young D and there is no rush. That was not the case up front with Slaf who was a 1OA. Reinbacher I believe will be a solid NHL Dman in time but he doesn't need to be rushed. Nemec and Jiricek both played a full AHL season.

 

[FrankMTL]

Reinbacher has looked good so far in Laval, especially for a kid that went straight from the Swiss League to the AHL and is still learning the NA game.

The stats speak for themselves so far:

11 Games, 2 goals and 3 assists with a +6

He hasn't been on the ice for too many goals for. Strong defensive play comes first, the offense will follow.

Just as a comparable, Simon Nemec finished his D+1 season in the AHL with 12 goals and 22 assists in 65 games with a +13, but he only had 1 goal and 5 assists in his first 18 games with a +2

 

[26Mats]

It’s easier to bring in a young winger and let him work it out like Slaf then a defenseman. Reinbacher won’t make the team unless they think he’s truly ready.

I'd think he'd be better than Barron for the number 6 spot next to Xhekaj. But we'll see in camp. He's also have to beat out Mailloux, Struble, and Harris, if they're still here.

 

[HuGort]

I think the thing Reinbacher has to do is become a rock defensively. That in itself will lend to better stats at the other end of the rink.
It's going to have to start with not getting beat to the outside and not letting players get behind him.
I think most of the other aspects of his game are fairly solid. We drafted this guy to be shut down.

Reinbacher be 6 or 7th best Defenseman in this draft.

 

[Schooner Guy]

There is a difference- Habs have a logjam of young D and there is no rush. That was not the case up front with Slaf who was a 1OA. Reinbacher I believe will be a solid NHL Dman in time but he doesn't need to be rushed. Nemec and Jiricek both played a full AHL season.

There was no rushing with Slaf. They wouldn't have put Slaf on the big club if they didn't think NHL was best for his development. They would have given his 3rd/4th line minutes to someone else.

We'll see what happens with Reinbacher. It will all depend on how he looks in camp. They are in a good situation where they can have internal competition for the D spots. I thought Mailloux looked terrific in his one NHL game.

 

[FrankMTL]

Reinbacher be 6 or 7th best Defenseman in this draft.

You're just spewing negative shit in every thread aren't you.

Tell us all why you think Reinbacher would only be the 6th or 7th best dman in this draft (or 7th/8th like you mentioned on the main boards)?

 

[Schooner Guy]

Reinbacher be 6 or 7th best Defenseman in this draft.

That's ridiculous.

 

[HuGort]

You're just spewing negative shit in every thread aren't you.

Tell us all why you think Reinbacher would only be the 6th or 7th best dman in this draft (or 7th/8th like you mentioned on the main boards)?

He's clearly not of skill set of a Buium, Parekh, Dickinson. To anybody who watches the games. About a Yaremchuk level.

 

[FrankMTL]

He's clearly not of skill set of a Buium, Parekh, Dickinson. To anybody who watches the games. About a Yaremchuk level.

And so you can decipher all that from 11 games in the AHL as a teenager in a men's league, or was it all the games he played as a teenager in a men's league in Europe? Is it possible, that if he was in a junior league or in the NCAA he would have far better stats and would be able to show more offense? Also, he's not an all offense defenseman like Parekh who suffers defensively, so do you value dmen that can play defense or not?