Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Markov never looked like the primary star, but everything went downhill when he wasn't there. He made everyone on his team better, he really was the general on the ice. His actual skills were very good, but he tended to think the game well enough that he didn't need to do much out of the ordinary. Every now and then he'd make an impressive move, or wire a shot when the time was right, and he could have done it more often, but he almost always chose the correct low risk play.

It's really hard to evaluate his ceiling because he was so very effective without having to push or take chances. I'm not sure he was top 5 or even top 10 in the league depending on how you categorize, but he was the one of the best #2 D.

Of course he was very good or very efficient, without the flashy moves. I try to think outside the box and find what his real value among the league. I don't remember he was at the all star game, it was Koivu. I liked Koivu but I think Marky was a better player playing at his position. It's hard to evaluate. Top 5 is maybe too much, between top 5 and top 10 is okay for me.

To return with Rein, he may end up being one of the most efficient D to neutralise a opponent with the timing and the way he moves so quick. And other aspects of the game too, he can be a complete D for any situations except maybe a PP specialist.

edit : if we start a thread with other nhl teams/fans, they will bring their list of best underated D, so Marky will one of others, depending on the year, he was 15th to 20th at worst. He had few years of injury too. The list of habs fans or the list of entire league, ? ...

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

In his prime he was top 10 easily. He didn't get the attention because he was not flashy, but he was oh so efficient.

He was playing 25 minutes a night against top lines, making partners like Komisarek look like good defenseman and getting guys like Souray/Streit paid by setting them up non-stop on the PP for one-timers.

Despite this, he hardly ever got any consideration for the Norris while Souray would get votes. It wasn't until like 2008/2009 that he finally got some consideration and finished 6th back to back years.

Easily one of the most under appreciated players in the league in the last couple of decades.

 

[Andy]

Markov was so underappreciated league wide. Definitely a top 10 d-man.

As many mentioned, defensively, we was so efficient that it didn't look like he was doing much. He was so smart in his positioning and anticipation of the play.

 

[Tyson]

He was playing 25 minutes a night against top lines, making partners like Komisarek look like good defenseman and getting guys like Souray/Streit paid by setting them up non-stop on the PP for one-timers.

Despite this, he hardly ever got any consideration for the Norris while Souray would get votes. It wasn't until like 2008/2009 that he finally got some consideration and finished 6th back to back years.

Easily one of the most under appreciated players in the league in the last couple of decades.

At this point what could the Habs do to honor him?

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

At this point what could the Habs do to honor him?

They can let him make the Demidov selection this year at the draft.

It would be nice if they honored him similar to how they did with Koivu.

 

[Tyson]

They can let him make the Demidov selection this year at the draft.

It would be nice if they honored him similar to how they did with Koivu.

I just don't like how he was discarded. He deserved a better send off

 

[WeThreeKings]

I just don't like how he was discarded. He deserveda better send off

Bergevin's summer of horrors. What a piece of shit human our last GM was.

 

[LaP]

He truly never got the respect he deserved. I don't like how his career ended, he was a great player for this team for well over a decade. 990 games played...should have played 1000 in a Habs jersey. He was a top 10 D in this league, everyone who played with him looked like stars.

The way Markov career ended is a black eye for the organization. Probably the only time i was ashamed of my team.

 

[VVV]

I just don't like how he was discarded. He deserveda better send off

To me that was the nail in the coffin for the Bargain Bin regime. The way they treated such a loyal and well loved silent leader like Markov was simply inacceptable

The guy deserved to have a Markov retirement night. He deserved nothing less

 

[Licou]

Markov was so underappreciated league wide. Definitely a top 10 d-man.

As many mentioned, defensively, we was so efficient that it didn't look like he was doing much. He was so smart in his positioning and anticipation of the play.

A lot of pundits are as bad as the average fan in regards to rating defensemen... It requires a good understanding of the game to do so properly.

So instead, they only rely in raw stats, not unlike how the Selke is selected...

 

[KevSkillz4]

If Reinbacher have same impact of Markov, that will be a homerun pick.

Markov have been not only a fantastic player, but a game changer.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[KevSkillz4]

He is in the same tier of Simon Nemec right?!

 

[themilosh]

At this point what could the Habs do to honor him?

I'd like to think he could have some sort of asst position with the team, much like what our other retired players used to do - like ambassadors who hang around the rink and meet fans etc.... Scouting in Russia? I'm not even sure where he lives.

yeah but can he score on short side? lol

 

[Zilo44]

Are people less worried now ?

 

[KevSkillz4]

Are people less worried now ?

I hope!

4 pts in 8 AHL games, that's very good.

 

[Zilo44]

I hope!

4 pts in 8 AHL games, that's very good.

While being +6 in 8 games. He does not get scored on a lot

 

[themilosh]

I hope!

4 pts in 8 AHL games, that's very good.

Once I saw his first goal in the AHL i was at complete ease with the pick. That was a thing of beauty, no luck involved just pure all-star quality.

 

[montreal]

Are people less worried now ?

we'll see what next season brings as he needs time to adjust to the smaller ice. He's had some ups and downs but so far overall he's looked a good bit better then I thought he would. I know some at the time were saying he was going to go directly to the Habs when he came over and I said that sounded like a terrible idea so I'm really glad how they are handling him so far.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Are people less worried now ?

Was never worried. People were saying he was playing bad but when I watched the games I didn't see what others did. He's playing how I thought he would. He will be on the Habs by December next year.

 

[WeThreeKings]

we'll see what next season brings as he needs time to adjust to the smaller ice. He's had some ups and downs but so far overall he's looked a good bit better then I thought he would. I know some at the time were saying he was going to go directly to the Habs when he came over and I said that sounded like a terrible idea so I'm really glad how they are handling him so far.

I think he will be even better in the NHL too, the bad moments have been him running around a bit too much in the defensive zone because the team itself isn't very good at executing the man on man defense system. Often having to quickly identify one threat and go to another one in a vastly different position and the second one being the adjustment you're talking about, gets himself positioned too high in the neutral zone and is allowing a bank pass to create an opportunity behind him.

 

[FrankMTL]

Unless he blows the doors off at training camp, I would send him right back to Laval at the start of next season, along with Mailloux (same situation) and hopefully Lane Hutson. If he shows he's the first that deserves to be called up, than so be it. I want these kids to be ready to play in the NHL. We can afford to be patient with these prospects.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Unless he blows the doors off at training camp, I would send him right back to Laval at the start of next season, along with Mailloux (same situation) and hopefully Lane Hutson. If he shows he's the first that deserves to be called up, than so be it. I want these kids to be ready to play in the NHL. We can afford to be patient with these prospects.

I'm not sure that's the plan for him, but I'd be all for it.

At some point, if this team is going to be good, we need to stop having the youngest defense core in the league. Talent is nice, but maybe we can cook them a little bit more in the A before coming up.

 

[FrankMTL]

I'm not sure that's the plan for him, but I'd be all for it.

At some point, if this team is going to be good, we need to stop having the youngest defense core in the league. Talent is nice, but maybe we can cook them a little bit more in the A before coming up.

If it isn't, it should be. We have more than enough defensemen on the roster for next season so that he can at least start the season in the NHL. Nothing says that he can't get called up at one point and play in the NHL on a continuous basis later in the season like Simon Nemec did with the Devils.

Of course, if he comes into camp stronger and faster and forces the Canadiens' hand, than that's great too.

 

[LaP]

He is in the same tier of Simon Nemec right?!

The sample size is very small but from the 8 games he played i'd say yes

Unless he blows the doors off at training camp, I would send him right back to Laval at the start of next season, along with Mailloux (same situation) and hopefully Lane Hutson. If he shows he's the first that deserves to be called up, than so be it. I want these kids to be ready to play in the NHL. We can afford to be patient with these prospects.

You got to give at least 10-20 games in the NHL to Mailloux next season though. Burying a kid in the AHL without giving him NHL experience is never a good idea in my book. It's fine if Mailloux spend most of next season in the AHL he's still very raw but he should have a taste of the NHL to know where he is at in his development like Barron this season.