Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Some people freaking out about the Jeff Petry comments on the sick podcast. I mean if he becomes Jeff Petry offensively, I'll have no problem with that because he's already defensively better than he ever was


What if 80% are close range rebounds, deflections, and tip ins lol

Yeah if he has Prime Petry’s numbers that would be a huge coup.

I was gonna say pretty much the exact same thing about his D. He has way more going for him defensively than Petry. Petry’s production with rock solid D is a #1 D 10/10.

Hoping he can grow his offensive game to that level.

 

[Miller Time]

NHL Players selected at the 5th draft position at hockeydb.com

It's Petry vs those guys? Interesting comparison. The recent guys it's obviously too soon to tell.

I would say Petry is about the median choice maybe?

Definitely top 1/2, and definitely not on par with the 5-6 truly elite players.

After that? Question of preference & scope (weight on peak vs career average) that's very subjective... quick count I had him somewhere in the 12-14 range, but anywhere from ~10-20 could probably be argued convincingly

Point was simply that a Petry caliber 5OA pick would be at worst average and likely better than average... especially if he hit that peak sooner and sustained it longer.

I think & hope he'll be considerably better, but if that's the floor, we're laughing!

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Definitely top 1/2, and definitely not on par with the 5-6 truly elite players.

After that? Question of preference & scope (weight on peak vs career average) that's very subjective... quick count I had him somewhere in the 12-14 range, but anywhere from ~10-20 could probably be argued convincingly

Point was simply that a Petry caliber 5OA pick would be at worst average and likely better than average... especially if he hit that peak sooner and sustained it longer.

I think & hope he'll be considerably better, but if that's the floor, we're laughing!

I agree with you on the ranking. It's always tough to be too certain about the relative rankings. To add a young Petry would be great. I also agree that there's room to go from there with DRB.

 

[KevSkillz4]

To me Reinbacher have already better hockey IQ, better defensive play than Petry. But if he reach the offensive talent of Jeff Petry with already better IQ in PP, that's will be huge.

A better version of a prime Jeff Petry, that's 100% worth a top 5 selection.

 

[Kaladin]

Michkov made sense, but I get the impression that Hughes is pretty worried about team size at this point. He's willing to spend later picks on small, skilled guys, but he's looking for size in the top 10. It hasn't worked out well for the habs the last few decades, but I guess some things don't change.

I literally said the exact same thing months ago and got lambasted for it on here. Size is a 100% part of the equation for them for their top picks. Other habs fans will catch on eventually. This years top pick will also be a big forward.

Has wtk come through here to retract his ridiculously early victory parade on how badly Michkov was doing in the khl yet? Or are we still waiting on that.

 

[TopTenPlayz]

And what these whiners fail to understand is that Petry's career is/has been better than most careers of 5OA picks in the past 30 years... easily top 1/2, maybe even top 10.

Everyone wants a superstar with a high pick, and hopefully RB becomes one... but if he tops out at a career as good as, or a bit better than Petry, that's really not so shabby

Would you still have this thought if Michkov becomes a 100 pt player and future HoF? BTW, dude has 11 pts in 9 KHL games and will likely finish 1st in scoring on his team at 18 years old.

 

[Colezuki]

Would you still have this thought if Michkov becomes a 100 pt player and future HoF? BTW, dude has 11 pts in 9 KHL games and will likely finish 1st in scoring on his team at 18 years old.

KHL is worse than it’s ever been and he is in a terrible team. These aren’t the brags you think they are

 

[Toene]

KHL is worse than it’s ever been and he is in a terrible team. These aren’t the brags you think they are

Still a good pro league. Any 18yo putting up ppg+ numbers in the SHL, Liiga, AHL or NL would be considered one of the top prospects in the world. Same for KHL.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Benson and Michkov are gross. Reinbacker is a good one but once again we will have to live with every team in the entire NHL having some ppg forwards while we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait , maybe next decade

 

[Heineman Mineman]

NHL Players selected at the 5th draft position at hockeydb.com

It's Petry vs those guys? Interesting comparison. The recent guys it's obviously too soon to tell.

I would say Petry is about the median choice maybe?

They definitely should have drafted Kasparaitis instead of Reinbacher

 

[Colezuki]

Still a good pro league. Any 18yo putting up ppg+ numbers in the SHL, Liiga, AHL or NL would be considered one of the top prospects in the world. Same for KHL.

Don’t get me wrong I agree, but pretending he is in the KHL of old and doing it on ska is a different thing all together. Michkov I believe will be a PPG+ player, but I don’t think you win with him come playoff time

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah Petry only really became the Petry we know at 30/31 years old. If Reinbacher can become him at 21 and we get 10-15 years of that, it’s a win.

However, defensively speaking, I think Reinbacher will be on another level. He doesn’t have that brainfart attribute that Petry has.

If Reinbacher can produce offensively like Petry did in his late 20's or early 30's, and provide solid D in his own zone, we will have a top pairing D. Petry was average at best in his own zone for a guy with his size and mobility IMO.

Don’t get me wrong I agree, but pretending he is in the KHL of old and doing it on ska is a different thing all together. Michkov I believe will be a PPG+ player, but I don’t think you win with him come playoff time

That's my outlook on it today as well. Michkov will help put fans in the seats during the regular season but playoff time? Not sure he turns the needle like some think he will. However, if he ends up being on a stacked Flyers team with a potent PP, that changes things. But that means it's sum of all parts accomplishments.

 

[26Mats]

Benson and Michkov are gross. Reinbacker is a good one but once again we will have to live with every team in the entire NHL having some ppg forwards while we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait , maybe next decade

Upcoming drafts are huge. We have to hope Calgary finishes 11th to 13th in the lottery in 2025, because Florida isn't finishing bottom 10.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Reinbacher should play today right?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Reinbacher should play today right?

Yes, looks to be making his return to the line-up today.

 

[Jaynki]

Some people freaking out about the Jeff Petry comments on the sick podcast. I mean if he becomes Jeff Petry offensively, I'll have no problem with that because he's already defensively better than he ever was

A classic.

How dare we compare Hutson to Quinn Hughes? How dare we compare Dach to Getzlaf?

But when we compare Reinbacher to Petry, suddenly its 100% valid and a proof that we picked a low upside player.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Benson and Michkov are gross. Reinbacker is a good one but once again we will have to live with every team in the entire NHL having some ppg forwards while we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait , maybe next decade

They were my two choices after Bedard.

 

[Mrb1p]

I don't think it's accurate to suggest that the Habs reached for size. Physical traits are obviously a part of the evaluation and projection, but with both Slaf & Reinbacher, I think they picked the best player they evaluated at that slot.

In 2022, after Slaf, of the next 7 picks, only 2 are 6' tall (Beck & Engstrom) and 3 of them were under 170lbs. Size was clearly not a dominant focus or priority.

Of course they did, but size is the reason why they thought these players were the best at that slot.

Nobody is saying they willingly picked the inferior player to add size, they think the size skill makes them more valuable than what was available.

What's your point? Playmaking creates scoring. I never called him a sniper. The best case scenario for him is a poor man's Patrick Kane. I wrote that already. Kane would easily be creative enough to play Center. He doesn't because he's too soft and not good enough against the puck. The same goes for Benson and I doubt it's gonna change.

Are you calling Benson soft? Jesus christ youre just plain trolling now.

Please stop, its just outright fake news and people are going to pick up on this and its going to have a Snowball effect.

 

[Mrb1p]

KHL is worse than it’s ever been and he is in a terrible team. These aren’t the brags you think they are

Another fake news artist.

Stop.

The KHL isnt as good as ten years ago but its still at the very worst the 4th best league in the world, by quite a distance. Probably closer to 2 than 4.

Hc Sochi is 2nd in its division, 5th in the league and currently 10-4.

People have to stop making shit up man.

 

[Miller Time]

Would you still have this thought if Michkov becomes a 100 pt player and future HoF? BTW, dude has 11 pts in 9 KHL games and will likely finish 1st in scoring on his team at 18 years old.

Oh fun, the what if game....

What if Reinbacher becomes an 80pt perrenial Norris finalist & future HOF lock.

Boom! Winner winner chicken dinner. My elite future HOF RD >> a 100pt winger any day of the week

So, Yes. I still have this thought despite Michkov putting up points in a league where Riley Barber & Jordan Weak are at the top of the point table

Hindsight is hindsight.

Wether or not a player picked later ends up with a better career is largely irrelevant, as it is largely inevitable. The question is wether or not the player selected gives the team good value/delivers on the potential they were drafted for.

You may be high on Michkov, but reality is that there are quite a few players from the deep 2023 draft class who could end up being better, even much better, than players picked ahead of them.

If RB has a Petry+ career, it's a good pick... but the reality is that he has the potential for much more. And unlike Michkov, whose floor is considerably lower & outside of the NHL, RB looks like a lock to be a top 4 NHL dman.

Good pick with the potential to be a great one. (& I say even though I'd probably have picked Michkov if I were in charge)

Of course they did, but size is the reason why they thought these players were the best at that slot.

Nobody is saying they willingly picked the inferior player to add size, they think the size skill makes them more valuable than what was available.

Sounds very "captain obvious" to me.

There are no scouts or hockey ops pros that don't prioritize physical attributes all other things being equal. Seems very silly to point that out and even sillier to suggest it's unique to the Habs

 

[Mrb1p]

Oh fun, the what if game....

What if Reinbacher becomes an 80pt perrenial Norris finalist & future HOF lock.

Boom! Winner winner chicken dinner. My elite future HOF RD >> a 100pt winger any day of the week

So, Yes. I still have this thought despite Michkov putting up points in a league where Riley Barber & Jordan Weak are at the top of the point table

Hindsight is hindsight.

Wether or not a player picked later ends up with a better career is largely irrelevant, as it is largely inevitable. The question is wether or not the player selected gives the team good value/delivers on the potential they were drafted for.

You may be high on Michkov, but reality is that there are quite a few players from the deep 2023 draft class who could end up being better, even much better, than players picked ahead of them.

If RB has a Petry+ career, it's a good pick... but the reality is that he has the potential for much more. And unlike Michkov, whose floor is considerably lower & outside of the NHL, RB looks like a lock to be a top 4 NHL dman.

Good pick with the potential to be a great one. (& I say even though I'd probably have picked Michkov if I were in charge)



Sounds very "captain obvious" to me.

There are no scouts or hockey ops pros that don't prioritize physical attributes all other things being equal. Seems very silly to point that out and even sillier to suggest it's unique to the Habs

Lol. Woosh.

They didnt think the skills were equal or anything like that, they chose to prioritize height and weight as a skill and thought that made a player the better player.

It was wrong then its still wrong now and it will be wrong.

 

[Miller Time]

Lol. Woosh.

They didnt think the skills were equal or anything like that, they chose to prioritize height and weight as a skill and thought that made a player the better player.

It was wrong then its still wrong now and it will be wrong.

I don't think your take has any evidence to support it, and an abundance of evidence directly contradicting it.

But by all means, if you have anything to support this fantasy, please do share

 

[Mrb1p]

I don't think your take has any evidence to support it, and an abundance of evidence directly contradicting it.

But by all means, if you have anything to support this fantasy, please do share

They looked at Slafkovsky and Cooley and said: "Damn, those kids are very close in skills!"?

????

 

[Hins77]

Michkov made sense, but I get the impression that Hughes is pretty worried about team size at this point. He's willing to spend later picks on small, skilled guys, but he's looking for size in the top 10. It hasn't worked out well for the habs the last few decades, but I guess some things don't change.

And I understand why. Vegas had only one guy under 6 ft (Marchessault). Saying size is irrelevant is just false, but a major factor

 

[1909]

And I understand why. Vegas had only one guy under 6 ft (Marchessault). Saying size is irrelevant is just false, but a major factor

Right. All recent SC winners had mostly heavy and taller players. And their smaller ones are hugely feisty and talented like Marchy, Point or Kucherov.